Ultimate Bet Bot??

TooTallTooTall
in General Poker Chat
Hi all, I'm new here so hope this question isn't way out there.

I've been playing on Ultimate Bet for some time now, usually only on the $.01 - $.02 or $.05 - $.10 no limit tables. I've been finding players who are playing on 8+ tables at a time? Their stacks are always good, usually double, triple or more the table entrance limit, so I know they've been winning. I'm wondering, are these really good players, or am I playing against bots??

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  • UnknownUnknown
    i use to wonder the same thing. they generally just play alot of poker....
  • syphilaidssyphilaids
    approx. 75% of multi tablers in micro stakes are bots. You see, UB doesn't make a lot of rake in micro stakes (I think its 10% no cap) so they create bots to take your money instead. Be wary, all these bots know which hand # they are on so know exactly what cards are coming out, so when one goes all in just fold, even the nuts.

    Of course, sometimes the bot has to lose and throw fake tells so no one catches on.
  • TonychanmanTonychanman
    any source for this information? or should we just take your word for it?
  • T8urmoneyT8urmoney
    Tonychanman wrote: »
    any source for this information? or should we just take your word for it?

    Assuming it's a level.......otherwise I'll go get my tin hat
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    This is no level, I heard it from a guy....
  • TooTallTooTall
    If Ultimate Bet is using bot's? Wouldn't they be required to post that somewhere on there website??

    The first table I played at last night had three really strong players. When I checked they were all sitting at 8+ tables. I switched tables 6 times and couldn't find one without either one of these guys or other really strong players who were playing at 8+ tables as well. I left for the night.

    So what site does everyone play at? One where if I'm playing against a strong player, I know it's a player and not a bot? Or a player that is using a Bot program??
  • JtotheLewJtotheLew
    Not only are bots conspiracies generally created by losing players, but even if they were real, they would presumably play in an ABC style system that it wouldn't be hard to beat them or at least not lose money to them over the long haul. If there was bots it also would be people who make bots, not the poker site, the risk/reward factor for them is to great to just have hundreds of bots playing micro limit. If they get caught they risk being shutdown, sued, charged, etc, etc, etc. all to make another million ontop of the 100 million they make every year. If it made sense for anyone to do this it would be some pimply 18 year old computer genius who would kill his own mother for 100 grand.

    Lots of people play 8 tables at once, and usually these are the better players at each buy in level. Making good money at online poker isn't about how good you are, it's about being somewhat good and being able to play massive amounts of hands and that is how some people do it.

    That being said, if there ever was a site with bots, it wouldn't surprise me if it was UltimateBet, they don't exactly have a stellar reputation although I'm sure they are trying really hard to improve that now a they lost a lot of their action over the years, especially from some of the high rollers who got burned through their incident.

    In summary, stop worrying about bots and play poker.
  • AllyAlly
    i LOLed at this whole thread, is there a signup to become a bot cuz I'm inz.
  • kingkao86kingkao86
    Its easy to play 8+ tables. Especially at micro. Just play super nit and you'll be fine at those stakes.

    Although I play 8+ tables and are losing at all of them. LOL.

    So to answer your question, this is not a sufficient reason to think they are bots. Now, are their bots at UB... maybe... but if they existed, I'm pretty sure you aren't coming in contact with them just yet.
  • reibsreibs
    Okay lets put this to bed. If you really want to know which players are bots, what you need to do is get a timer. Time the amount of seconds it takes for the "bot" to act each time the action is on them. Obviously it should always be exactly the same time since its a bot. Unfortunately, you will need to get a large sample size to please the poker crowd, so do this about 5000 times and graph the results.

    Thanks
  • syphilaidssyphilaids
    reibs wrote: »
    Okay lets put this to bed. If you really want to know which players are bots, what you need to do is get a timer. Time the amount of seconds it takes for the "bot" to act each time the action is on them. Obviously it should always be exactly the same time since its a bot. Unfortunately, you will need to get a large sample size to please the poker crowd, so do this about 5000 times and graph the results.

    Thanks

    Most bots have a random timer associated with them. They can take 2 seconds to 15 seconds to act.

    You can often find bots stacking off with other bots on short handed tables to get the table active. They will consistantly buy back again. In short, it's basically just a massive collusion conspiracy to take your $10.

    Although maybe SOME people can play 8+ tables, I would still say 75% of them are bots. They are IMPOSSIBLE to beat in the long run, as they know exactly what everyone has, what the river is going to be given the hand #.

    My advice is to start a petition and send in several complaint emails to UB. Get on the live chat and start complaining. IF they deny it tell them you have CONFIRMED evidence to show it, and tell them if it doesn't stop you'll take your $100 elsewhere. Give them this ^^^ info. Hopefully in the future, they will stop their collusion and host a FAIR game.
  • TonychanmanTonychanman
    go ahead with that, after you've collected your proof and submit it, i'll be right behind you :D
  • reibsreibs
    Okay I was being slightly sarcastic. I dunno which direction syph was going there, but Im just gunna leave this one alone... lol
  • JtotheLewJtotheLew
    syphilaids wrote: »
    Most bots have a random timer associated with them. They can take 2 seconds to 15 seconds to act.

    You can often find bots stacking off with other bots on short handed tables to get the table active. They will consistantly buy back again. In short, it's basically just a massive collusion conspiracy to take your $10.

    Although maybe SOME people can play 8+ tables, I would still say 75% of them are bots. They are IMPOSSIBLE to beat in the long run, as they know exactly what everyone has, what the river is going to be given the hand #.

    My advice is to start a petition and send in several complaint emails to UB. Get on the live chat and start complaining. IF they deny it tell them you have CONFIRMED evidence to show it, and tell them if it doesn't stop you'll take your $100 elsewhere. Give them this ^^^ info. Hopefully in the future, they will stop their collusion and host a FAIR game.

    Do you actually believe this or is it just your way to lie to yourself about when you lose online? Do you also subscribe to the notion that online poker sites create better hands and more suck outs to create bigger rakes on a pot? Doom switches? What site do you play on that is free of all this fraudulent activity?
  • syphilaidssyphilaids
    .... Hey you guys choose what you want to believe, If you don't believe that UB has micro-stakes bots then keep playing there, or you can take my advice and start a petition.


    I really, really hope someone starts a petition about this, that would be absolutely hillarious. Of course I'm joking about this! I just hope that someone goes the whole 9 yards to find out he's been stooped.
  • JtotheLewJtotheLew
    syphilaids wrote: »
    .... Hey you guys choose what you want to believe, If you don't believe that UB has micro-stakes bots then keep playing there, or you can take my advice and start a petition.


    I really, really hope someone starts a petition about this, that would be absolutely hillarious. Of course I'm joking about this! I just hope that someone goes the whole 9 yards to find out he's been stooped.

    Sorry I don't know you well enough to separate you from someone who would actually believe this..
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    Methinks the levelers are trying to outlevel each other. :) Not sure which way is up at the moment..
  • syphilaidssyphilaids
    Something tells me it's all downhill from here.
  • JoeMayoJoeMayo
    Just because a person plays 8 tables or more doesn't mean they are bots. People are quite capable of playing 16 tables or more profitably. There is actually ssoftware out ther (e.g.table ninja) to make it easier for people play multiple tables. Having said that they might as well be bots because they play like robots. Even if they were bots as far as I know nobody has designed a bot to consistently beat poker anyways. Bots would probably be easier to beat than the average player.
  • NonesthecoolNonesthecool
    what kinda irks me is that there is always 1 player at each high stakes table (on pokerstars) even when nobody is playing... I noticed this yesterday and previous days
  • DennisGDennisG
    I run 3 different bots on UB to clear bonuses. One of the few sites that actually allows bots.
  • JtotheLewJtotheLew
    DennisG wrote: »
    I run 3 different bots on UB to clear bonuses. One of the few sites that actually allows bots.

    lol
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    DennisG wrote: »
    I run 3 different bots on UB to clear bonuses. One of the few sites that actually allows bots.

    My bot's better than yer bot!!! na na na...
  • UnknownUnknown
    the future of poker is in learning how to properly tweak your bot, no need to play hand just run your bot into the simulators and see if you make money vs others bots.
  • TonychanmanTonychanman
    DennisG wrote: »
    I run 3 different bots on UB to clear bonuses. One of the few sites that actually allows bots.

    seriously? where do you get the bots? just google poker bot?
  • HobbesHobbes
    Tonychanman wrote: »
    seriously? where do you get the bots? just google poker bot?

    If you can code a bit codingthewheel.com had a great series
  • JoeMayoJoeMayo
    DennisG wrote: »
    I run 3 different bots on UB to clear bonuses. One of the few sites that actually allows bots.

    What are the screenames of your bots?
  • Grammar PoliceGrammar Police
    Multiple levels of awesomeness itt!
  • TonychanmanTonychanman
    Hobbes wrote: »
    If you can code a bit codingthewheel.com had a great series

    and what if have no clue about coding? :-[
  • HobbesHobbes
    Tonychanman wrote: »
    and what if have no clue about coding? :-[


    then google holdem bot
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