Online gaming seems to be the last vestige of the incompetent provincial governments. Politicians are no longer covert about taking money from their constituents -- desperate times.
All they need to do is buy Cereus.
Licence to print money. lol
lol....good one.
Cereus is basically run out of Montreal, as are most poker websites. How hard is it to find consultants involved in setting online poker sites up. I know of a couple based out of BC as well.
People need to understand unregulated != illegal and to be honest, all regulated online poker is going to do is seriously segment the markets.
The United States is expected to end its four-year ban on Internet gambling this fall.
This statement which is constantly thrown around is untrue, as I'm sure most of you know already. How many people have been charged for playing online poker? Harrah's and a few other US operators have set up their own online poker sites.
Though to be honest, I'm pretty excited about the idea of all sites that pulled out of the US market coming back. Never effected us though.
Not that excited about online Ontario poker rooms. Will the rake be higher or lower than OLG? I wouldn't be surprised to see $5-7 raked pots.
I could see this coming as soon as BC and whatever other province said they were going to do this. Incredible amount of money to be made. Rake will probably be the same as live casino and I would imagine that the higher end cash games will be session /hr which you will pay before you are dealt a card. I don't see our taxes going down. Just a huge cash grab for the Dalton Gang.:bs:
Also, how much you wanna wager that any $$$ you withdraw is recorded for taxation purposes?
This is one of the many reasons the "unregulated" system we have right now isn't terrible.
And before someone chimes in that Canadians don't have to pay taxes on gambling winnings, the reality is that we don't have to pay taxes on "gambling winfalls" and regulated online poker most likely won't fall into that category.
For the record - I paid taxes on my poker winnings last year, as they were my sole source of income at the time. :mad:
Funny to see people have more faith in the unregulated offshore casinos then government run systems. I hope this site becomes a huge success so that the government has extra money to spend on their expenses, pay increases and kickbacks for their friends and family.
Whenever I think about any form of government I just think of how it must feel to be a Leaf fan. Promises and "this is the year" and all you get is crap.
Well put Milo.
I figure that Dalton will be told next year that since he has screwed the taxpayers of this province over and over and with the e health and olg scandals along with paying out millions in severance packages to the retards they hired to run these institutions. There is no chance of him being elected again, He will step down with is nice cushy pension and all of the perks that come with it and the next criminal organization will jump right in there and rape and pillage us all over again.:mad:
The worse thing about this is that online poker rooms are starting to pull out of Canada. Some skins on The old Boss network (GTech) have already started pulling out, and its just a matter of time before the whole network goes.
I believe the chances that they are competitive with the products that the current major on-line sites offer will be slim and none. So no moderately savvy poker player is going to go near the site for anything other than shits and giggles (or to look to take advantage of the poker illiterate that will no doubt be there).
Look at it as a stupidity tax a la lotteries. If the government can collect more funds without sticking their hand in my pocket I'm all for it.
People care because they can see what is coming down the road, namely some variation of the following:
ONgov: People like to piss their $$$ away in casinos, so if we have them here, we will get all that revenue.
ONgov: Okay, our casinos suck, and they are not making as much $$$ as we had hoped, but people are gambling on-line. If we offer on-line gambling, we will get all that revenue, too.
ONgov: Okay, our site sucks, it is riddled with problems, and we are still not getting the $$$ we had hoped.
ONgov: We are the only supplier of responsible gaming, so all other sites will be banned in Ontario.
ONgov: We are the only supplier of responsible gaming, so all other sites will be banned in Ontario.
This is the one most poker players are worried about, but it would be difficult to regulate province by province, as opposed to nation by nation.
Italy and France have already gone this route. The US is currently looking at going this route and are expected to do so in the near future.
While I think it's unlikely Canada will do it as well, opening provincial online casinos is the first step towards making it happen.
There have also been talks about giving online poker their own unique, three-letter domain extension (like they did with porn sites and the xxx extension a couple of months ago). If that becomes a requirement, it will make it very easy to block "unlicensed" gaming sites across specific nations.
See, I actually think the US might be looking at some sort of licensing agreement. In other words, either FTP or P*'s becomes the official licensed on-line gaming site for the US of A. For an appropriate annual fee (read %), of course. All others would be frozen out, until the agreement came up for renewal.
So much more profitable that way, too . . . $$$ for nothing, really, which is something any politician can understand.
Milo is on to something, there is a article in today's Barrie paper about a mayor commenting on all the sites there are now online and how it might affect casino's here if they go along with this site. So not really looking good, but too early to tell yet.
I don't know, but with Canada being the way it is with all these rules and regulations about everything, this seems to be the beginning of the end to me. Penalties or taxes for international online gambling and higher rakes here. Look at Poker at B&M casinos. The rake is an absolute joke at the low levels I play at.
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ya that's what I mean, also lol at low cost to start up, ummmmmmmm no.
They will be too late as the u.s. market looks like it will open up again here real soon.
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Online gaming seems to be the last vestige of the incompetent provincial governments. Politicians are no longer covert about taking money from their constituents -- desperate times.
All they need to do is buy Cereus.
Licence to print money. lol
lol....good one.
Cereus is basically run out of Montreal, as are most poker websites. How hard is it to find consultants involved in setting online poker sites up. I know of a couple based out of BC as well.
People need to understand unregulated != illegal and to be honest, all regulated online poker is going to do is seriously segment the markets.
This statement which is constantly thrown around is untrue, as I'm sure most of you know already. How many people have been charged for playing online poker? Harrah's and a few other US operators have set up their own online poker sites.
Though to be honest, I'm pretty excited about the idea of all sites that pulled out of the US market coming back. Never effected us though.
Not that excited about online Ontario poker rooms. Will the rake be higher or lower than OLG? I wouldn't be surprised to see $5-7 raked pots.
I don't see our taxes going down. Just a huge cash grab for the Dalton Gang.:bs:
Also, how much you wanna wager that any $$$ you withdraw is recorded for taxation purposes?
This is a very bad idea . . . :-X
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This is one of the many reasons the "unregulated" system we have right now isn't terrible.
And before someone chimes in that Canadians don't have to pay taxes on gambling winnings, the reality is that we don't have to pay taxes on "gambling winfalls" and regulated online poker most likely won't fall into that category.
For the record - I paid taxes on my poker winnings last year, as they were my sole source of income at the time. :mad:
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Whenever I think about any form of government I just think of how it must feel to be a Leaf fan. Promises and "this is the year" and all you get is crap.
Between these and my losses in the market I won't pay taxes for years.
By that I mean they should establish the rules for business to follow, rather than compete with pirvate businesses.
I figure that Dalton will be told next year that since he has screwed the taxpayers of this province over and over and with the e health and olg scandals along with paying out millions in severance packages to the retards they hired to run these institutions. There is no chance of him being elected again, He will step down with is nice cushy pension and all of the perks that come with it and the next criminal organization will jump right in there and rape and pillage us all over again.:mad:
Thanks. Beat? The wife's still pissed off I claimed them.
I believe the chances that they are competitive with the products that the current major on-line sites offer will be slim and none. So no moderately savvy poker player is going to go near the site for anything other than shits and giggles (or to look to take advantage of the poker illiterate that will no doubt be there).
Look at it as a stupidity tax a la lotteries. If the government can collect more funds without sticking their hand in my pocket I'm all for it.
ONgov: People like to piss their $$$ away in casinos, so if we have them here, we will get all that revenue.
ONgov: Okay, our casinos suck, and they are not making as much $$$ as we had hoped, but people are gambling on-line. If we offer on-line gambling, we will get all that revenue, too.
ONgov: Okay, our site sucks, it is riddled with problems, and we are still not getting the $$$ we had hoped.
ONgov: We are the only supplier of responsible gaming, so all other sites will be banned in Ontario.
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This is the one most poker players are worried about, but it would be difficult to regulate province by province, as opposed to nation by nation.
Italy and France have already gone this route. The US is currently looking at going this route and are expected to do so in the near future.
While I think it's unlikely Canada will do it as well, opening provincial online casinos is the first step towards making it happen.
There have also been talks about giving online poker their own unique, three-letter domain extension (like they did with porn sites and the xxx extension a couple of months ago). If that becomes a requirement, it will make it very easy to block "unlicensed" gaming sites across specific nations.
So much more profitable that way, too . . . $$$ for nothing, really, which is something any politician can understand.
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