Bankroll Question:
When playing cash games, how far out of your bankroll are you willing to play if you KNOW (through experience) that there are a few spew-ers on a table?
The reason I ask this is because on friday night I was playing razz, and I noticed 2 of my favourite players to play against on the same table, as well as a few other known donks. It would cost me 1/2 my bankroll to BI for 10bbs, and I was wondering if it's ever a good idea to do so. ANyone ever take this gambol?
The reason I ask this is because on friday night I was playing razz, and I noticed 2 of my favourite players to play against on the same table, as well as a few other known donks. It would cost me 1/2 my bankroll to BI for 10bbs, and I was wondering if it's ever a good idea to do so. ANyone ever take this gambol?
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Know what you mean but if you are risking that much of your bankroll, it more becomes about gambling. If your bankroll is $5k, are you going to play in a $25/$50 game where a player is going all-in every hand blind for $5k (rebuys every hand lost)? even a player pushing blind will hit every few hands so is it worth risking your entire bankroll? I would say no.
I can't see that ever being a good thing to do.....you need to have alot more BB's to take that risk (50+)....and keep in mind, this is coming from someone who doesn't follow any bankroll mgt at all.
Seriously, if your asking, it's just a matter of time!
Dude I know, and I was SERIOUSLY thinking about it....
these guys are so bad and the drool was dripping off of my chin, I wanted in sooooo bad!
I know in this particular situation its allways a bad idea, I'm just curious whats the max % of bankroll would people buy into on an ultra soft/lagtard/easy game?
I like T8's idea of 20%. how about others?
Is your bankroll replenishable from outside income or not? What's your current win-rate at your current playing level? Size of bankroll? Playing style/variance? Win-rate at proposed level? Variance at proposed level? Given all of these, and your comfort level for going broke, I could give you an exact percentage.
But, without those, here's a general suggestion!
Never risk more than 10% of your bankroll in a game that: A) you are unsure about your advantage, or
Well, this is my online roll of a whopping $200. Replenishing wouldn't hurt me, but its not something I'd like to do as it'd cut out my party time!
I was proposing playing 5/10 limit razz. My winrate there is unknown as I dont have PT stud, but If I had to guess over the course of say 200 hands at that level I'm probably up $50. My playing style is straight forward, tight-aggressive, variance is unknown. Put it this way, I was willing to put it all on the line at the thought of tripling my BR against a few donks. I would be choked on going broke, but I wouldn't cry over it!
well, for A) I was sure I had a big edge on these guys.
C) It's online.
Yeah, forget c) I play a lot of live games!
*If you can play Chicago with a skilled partner, you may ignore this recommendation
A few weeks ago I would have said something like, "To avoid bankroll worries play with 100 buy ins."
Now I'm thinking, If you're young and you can replace your bankroll, take your shot.
While I used to advocate playing it safe and building a rolls slowly with close to zero risk of ruin... I now have had a change of heart.
Why?
I didn't build my bankroll playing it safe.
In 2004 I was playing 3/6NL on a 600 roll ...
Yep, One Freaking buyin.
... I ran hot and crushed the game.
Instant bankroll.
Then I learned about bankroll management and became a bankroll nit.
Take the shot man!
"If you're too careful, your whole life can be a fucking grind"
I talked to a friend about this a few years ago. Essentially we both feel that if we ever went bust, that'd be it (no depositing). This forces us to be disciplined.
We did talk about the scenario of someone giving us AA vs any other 2 cards in NL HE, and letting us risk as much as we wanted (all in PF). How much of our roll would we put up? We both felt half of our roll was a good amount. This is best case scenario, and yet we have like a 20 percent chance at losing half our roll. I feel even that's pushing it.
I mean, hell, I can pick up $80.00 at the ATM, right?
So if you think you're putting your entire roll on the line because you can go to the ATM right after and get more money, then you are NOT putting your entire roll on the line :P.
hi new to the forums so go easy on me here :P
if it comes to NLHE playing half your bankroll is never a good idea but when OP said he was playing razz, then razz I think is alright to play half your bankroll with if you know for a fact that you have a big advantage over some fishes just because razz has a lower variance than NLHE imo
my 0.02
i will kill you....raise .10
Indeed razz has less variance, however it is only noticable over something like 50K hands. In holdem it is common to break even over 50K+ hands and know he's playign a solid game, in razz it's not so common. If a razz player does this he usually knows he's got a leak somewhere.
It's still common to drop 60BBs in a session playing a perfect game.
Ok Richard, like your advice here, but then again I am a true gambol at heart. The best poker player I know started his roll like this, played 1/2 with a 300 BR and ran hot. Got to a few G's then smartened up. However, after 2-3 years of playing he hasn't gone past 2/4 while multi tabling.
So my next question is, would you rather put 50% of your small BR on a table or say 20% into an MTT and hope for the best there?
No question about it.
50% on the cash game table every time.
Urrmm . . . methinks you missed the joke? *sigh*