staking thread part 2?

So I am looking for thoughts on a plan on what you guys would like to see included if I was to get staked by you fine people. I have been on a break from poker and starting to get the urge to play once again(which is a good thing from what I read in a article today) and it is a few weeks away before I can go at poker myself, plus this could be a good way to be motivated and have some fun laughing at bad beats.

This is just planning right now as there is a couple of things I have to see in the next couple of days.

I ask this as there are people who would rather go for decent score compared to smaller(I am planning to start small by the way) and there are people who want to see certain tournaments included, starting bankroll etc etc.

So.........

1)Would you like to see makeup offered?(IF so I will be starting at a lower bankroll cause I don't want to be owing anyone money on here, screw that. :)).


2)mixture of stt's, example, 9 man,18 man,27 man, 45 man.

3) a small mtt like a 180 man or small buy in mtt included here and there to go for a good score and boost the return and bankroll.

4)Anything else you would like to see.

So the basics is I wanted to start at the 2.25 level on full tilt stt's and the odd 180 man or regular mtt with a starting bankroll of $60-$100(so 30-50 buy in's) and work it up to where we can move to 5.50 level and move back down if on a bad run, I believe this is important to have this option of moving down when not going good and moving to next level if we are up and or on a good run.

As for cash games as I know some are going to mention that, I would not feel right asking to be staked into something I have not played much as I can't answer how it will go.

Also if by some chance(or miracle, ya ya shut up Milo:p) that the bankroll doubles I can ship back original bankroll and we freeroll for the rest of the time.

So just trying to come up with a good plan and would like to see the forum included and we all have some fun with the pokerz.:)

I promise to only swear every 3rd bad beat.:)
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  • anyone who votes last option gets a ban;), I am bribing comp with beer.:)
  • What was the return on the last stake?
  • DennisG wrote: »
    What was the return on the last stake?


    A loss of about 60 bucks, but stayed at the 1 level and game.
  • Heh, sorry. I wanted to see the poll results to date and didn't really have an opinion. Didn't want to skew legitimate responses so I went with the joke option. Awaiting my imminent ban.
  • I don't play much tourney's, but I think you'd gain a lot of valuable experience grinding the low limits that could likely help your tourney perspective (at the very least.)
  • At no point in that long ass original post did you include the most important piece of information:

    Why are you a good investment?

    By this I mean you should be including factual evidence showing that you are a winning player (Ie OPR, sharkscope, PTR, etc).

    Im not saying this will get you a stake, but "I makes lots of forum posts" is not a valid reason for me to light monies on fire.

    Id rather have you do a little work and sell yourself.
  • Wetts1012 wrote: »
    At no point in that long ass original post did you include the most important piece of information:

    Why are you a good investment?

    By this I mean you should be including factual evidence showing that you are a winning player (Ie OPR, sharkscope, PTR, etc).

    Im not saying this will get you a stake, but "I makes lots of forum posts" is not a valid reason for me to light monies on fire.

    Id rather have you do a little work and sell yourself.

    That would be not for this thread, that would be for the thread when the final plan is put together.
  • Shtebs wrote: »
    Heh, sorry. I wanted to see the poll results to date and didn't really have an opinion. Didn't want to skew legitimate responses so I went with the joke option. Awaiting my imminent ban.


    lol:)
  • philliivey wrote: »
    That would be not for this thread, that would be for the thread when the final plan is put together.

    Fail

    I have to agree with Wetts, you have to sell yourself to generate interest first, THEN put a plan in place. Like any other product or service, you must be able to sell what you got to offer before the market takes the risk. Prove to us you're worth the investment.
  • I don't get it, if you're a profitable player who can hold on to your money then why would you need a stake? And if you're not good enough to profit then why would anyone stake you? It's not like your looking to get staked at the 50 dollar mtt level
  • STR82ACE wrote: »
    Fail

    I have to agree with Wetts, you have to sell yourself to generate interest first, THEN put a plan in place. Like any other product or service, you must be able to sell what you got to offer before the market takes the risk. Prove to us you're worth the investment.



    fail, how can I sell if everything is not put into place, I was already going to do what he says, it does not belong in here.
  • Richard~ wrote: »
    I don't get it, if you're a profitable player who can hold on to your money then why would you need a stake? And if you're not good enough to profit then why would anyone stake you? It's not like your looking to get staked at the 50 dollar mtt level



    I am awesome!!! I already knew someone was going to bring that up, that's why I explained it in op.

    No but I have had a offer from someone on here already for that. :)
  • philliivey wrote: »
    fail, how can I sell if everything is not put into place, I was already going to do what he says, it does not belong in here.

    You are not selling your PLAN...you're selling YOU. Without knowing your stats, its not going to be easy to get anyone to support your plan.

    Publish your stats and your graphs, bankroll before and now. This will generate more interest from prospective investors than saying 'Here's my plan, help me out'.
  • STR82ACE wrote: »
    You are not selling your PLAN...you're selling YOU. Without knowing your stats, its not going to be easy to get anyone to support your plan.

    Publish your stats and your graphs, bankroll before and now. This will generate more interest from prospective investors than saying 'Here's my plan, help me out'.


    Yes like I said that's what I was gonna do when the plan is actually in place, this thread is for what people would like to see in the plan as in terms of starting bankroll and games, no point have I said this is the plan.
  • Either way good things are gonna happen like back in November, December when I got revenge on scumbags who stabbed me in the back.
  • And full tilt just did a update today and quite a few are saying it is crashing on them, whew!!! glad I have not made a final plan yet.;)

    I know I know, I am awesome, how do you be so awesome and right all the time Phil?

    Well I don't know it is a talent and using common sense.:)
  • I'm conidering investing a small amount of money, I just need to think it over first and see if I can fit it into my budget but I actually do have a bit of an idea for staking/coaching for small stake 45 man tourneys on tilt if you're interested
  • Richard~ wrote: »
    I'm conidering investing a small amount of money, I just need to think it over first and see if I can fit it into my budget but I actually do have a bit of an idea for staking/coaching for small stake 45 man tourneys on tilt if you're interested


    yup, 45 man's are good, I hear quite a bit of talk about them lately, do you think they are full of reg's now? or still enough bad players?:)
  • philli. Staking is like any investment. I need to know what I am investing in so that I can calculate a possible return on my investment.
  • Yes that's why this thread was made.
  • As others have said, I am not interested in considering a plan without some backup information. Let's see some stats and see where you are ahead of the game..then discuss a plan. I don't have much time to play these days, and would consider staking someone as well...but, without seeing some stats, I don't want to talk about a "plan".
  • DennisG wrote: »
    As others have said, I am not interested in considering a plan without some backup information. Let's see some stats and see where you are ahead of the game..then discuss a plan. I don't have much time to play these days, and would consider staking someone as well...but, without seeing some stats, I don't want to talk about a "plan".


    no point in seeing stats then.

    Might be too late anyway, you guys snooze you lose:)
  • didn't I already offer you a bankroll for cash games in your previous thread? Any man that cost GTA money, I got to support!
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    didn't I already offer you a bankroll for cash games in your previous thread? Any man that cost GTA money, I got to support!


    lol, oh oh I have not mentioned yet prop bets with pokerjah will be open again:wink2:
  • philliivey wrote: »
    lol, oh oh I have not mentioned yet prop bets with pokerjah will be open again:wink2:

    very true; cash games are a lot easier from a time perspective than these drawn out tournaments.
  • philliivey wrote: »
    no point in seeing stats then.

    You baffle me some...ok, most...days. Because one wants to see where you are doing your best at before making a plan....there is no point in seeing the stats? huh?
    Might be too late anyway, you guys snooze you lose:)

    hmm..me thinks.. without seeing stats, and prior record....you could be wrong here. But, regardless...gl!
  • DennisG wrote: »
    You baffle me some...ok, most...days. Because one wants to see where you are doing your best at before making a plan....there is no point in seeing the stats? huh?



    hmm..me thinks.. without seeing stats, and prior record....you could be wrong here. But, regardless...gl!


    you baffle me, your asking for something that has nothing to do with the thread, as for what I am best I have provided it in op and numerous times already. you are now flip flopping, you complaining about 1 thing but now agreeing with my point as to there is no point in providing stats for something I am not going to play, hence there needs to be a "plan" in place beforehand hence why this is a thread only asking what direction would be good to go in with what I have done best in.

    I have provided stats with person(s) that know what is going on.


    You don't lose out totally as there is still a way you can benefit.
  • No where in the original post do you give stats or suggest what you are best at.

    I am not going to say "ok, I would like to see you play Mtt's..x number a week..blah blah blah.." then you show the stats with a -345% roi...

    I would like to see overall stats on each sector of your game ie: mtt's, stt, cash etc...before wasting time making a plan on things that you might suck at..

    I don't think anyone else wants to suggest plans for you when they can't see your stats either..it just doesn't make sense.
  • philliivey wrote: »
    you baffle me, your asking for something that has nothing to do with the thread, as for what I am best I have provided it in op and numerous times already. you are now flip flopping, you complaining about 1 thing but now agreeing with my point as to there is no point in providing stats for something I am not going to play, hence there needs to be a "plan" in place beforehand hence why this is a thread only asking what direction would be good to go in with what I have done best in.
    .

    ok...so what have you done best in?
  • DennisG wrote: »
    No where in the original post do you give stats or suggest what you are best at.

    I am not going to say "ok, I would like to see you play Mtt's..x number a week..blah blah blah.." then you show the stats with a -345% roi...

    I would like to see overall stats on each sector of your game ie: mtt's, stt, cash etc...before wasting time making a plan on things that you might suck at..

    I don't think anyone else wants to suggest plans for you when they can't see your stats either..it just doesn't make sense.


    wrong again, it is very clear you did not read the original post, there is nothing else to say in this matter dude, your in the wrong. I only suggested what I have had results in and only asking what is the best way for a plan.

    I have yet to ask to actually be staked in anything and made this thread to "plan" ahead before doing so to avoid problems such as this beforehand.

    This is why I have closed my accounts in this industry cause of too much drama and bullshit.

    I am only asking on here cause I trust you guys more and would rather play for you all.

    Someone has come up with a idea which has not been confirmed yet but it was 100 percent what I was looking for on a number of terms which includes discussion on the forum which can benefit all.
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