And it f***** continues

BotmacBotmac
in Brags, Beats & Variance
Fuck me, when is this bullshit supposed to stop, I hear get in with the best hand. Well I do and lose every fuckin time.:D. Then you have players Calling with 57 , WTF, can anybody tell me how he can snap call this, I 'm at a loss for words on his call, yet he still wins, I ll trade it all for luck in this game, because I can't seem to win playing my way:D

Full Tilt Poker Game #22038342843: $2 + $0.20 Tournament (169993419), Table 42 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:49:43 ET - 2010/07/02
Seat 1: Terry Fearns (28,328)
Seat 2: Botmac (22,911)
Seat 4: Bluff A Matics (36,151)
Seat 5: xuZu (111,894)
Seat 6: MRElvis (16,580)
Seat 7: womackcali02 (38,890)
Seat 8: -o-Diesel-o- (16,474)
Seat 9: Runnr Runner (25,750)
Terry Fearns antes 100
Botmac antes 100
Bluff A Matics antes 100
xuZu antes 100
MRElvis antes 100
womackcali02 antes 100
-o-Diesel-o- antes 100
Runnr Runner antes 100
womackcali02 posts the small blind of 400
-o-Diesel-o- posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Botmac [Ac As]
Runnr Runner folds
Terry Fearns folds
Botmac raises to 2,600
Bluff A Matics folds
xuZu folds
MRElvis folds
womackcali02 folds
-o-Diesel-o- raises to 16,374, and is all in
Botmac calls 13,774
-o-Diesel-o- shows [9s 9h]
Botmac shows [Ac As]
*** FLOP *** [9d 5h 5c]
*** TURN *** [9d 5h 5c] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [9d 5h 5c 8d] [5d]
-o-Diesel-o- shows a full house, Nines full of Fives
Botmac shows a full house, Fives full of Aces
-o-Diesel-o- wins the pot (33,948) with a full house, Nines full of Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 33,948 | Rake 0
Board: [9d 5h 5c 8d 5d]
Seat 1: Terry Fearns folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Botmac showed [Ac As] and lost with a full house, Fives full of Aces
Seat 4: Bluff A Matics folded before the Flop
Seat 5: xuZu folded before the Flop
Seat 6: MRElvis (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: womackcali02 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: -o-Diesel-o- (big blind) showed [9s 9h] and won (33,948) with a full house, Nines full of Fives
Seat 9: Runnr Runner folded before the Flop

Sick shit.

Full Tilt Poker Game #22036459341: $2 + $0.20 Tournament (169993419), Table 51 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:17:26 ET - 2010/07/02
Seat 1: jimmyjmb (8,340), is sitting out
Seat 2: Davide_pt (2,430)
Seat 3: Julrick (2,040)
Seat 4: Botmac (5,060)
Seat 5: thedog412 (2,730)
Seat 6: FS-MaqX (2,760), is sitting out
Seat 7: roadrunnerNM (7,360)
Seat 8: dmartvu (2,430)
Seat 9: fimoluxe80 (3,915)
Julrick posts the small blind of 60
Botmac posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Botmac [Th 7d]
thedog412 folds
FS-MaqX folds
roadrunnerNM folds
jimmyjmb has returned
dmartvu raises to 360
fimoluxe80 has 15 seconds left to act
fimoluxe80 raises to 3,915, and is all in
jimmyjmb calls 3,915
Davide_pt folds
Julrick folds
Botmac folds
dmartvu folds
fimoluxe80 shows [Ah Ac]
jimmyjmb shows [5c 7c]
*** FLOP *** [4d 6d Jc]
*** TURN *** [4d 6d Jc] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [4d 6d Jc 8h] [2h]
fimoluxe80 shows a pair of Aces
jimmyjmb shows a straight, Eight high
jimmyjmb wins the pot (8,370) with a straight, Eight high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,370 | Rake 0
Board: [4d 6d Jc 8h 2h]
Seat 1: jimmyjmb showed [5c 7c] and won (8,370) with a straight, Eight high
Seat 2: Davide_pt (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Julrick (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Botmac (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: thedog412 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: FS-MaqX didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: roadrunnerNM didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: dmartvu folded before the Flop
Seat 9: fimoluxe80 showed [Ah Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces

Comments

  • GTA PokerGTA Poker
    He must have read that you were bluffing.

    Play 20 tables you won't even notice anymore.
  • philliiveyphilliivey
    Just for the record botmac and I are different people,lol

    Welcome to my club botmac!:)
  • BotmacBotmac
    How do I resign from the club phil ? Ya GTA I only play a couple of tourneys a week, I think that what frustrates me the most, trying to play the best game I can and watching donks win hand after hand with terrible calls and great luck. I know they are donkaments and I should not expect much more from alot of the players, but man it is so frustrating. Rant over (for now ;)
  • philliiveyphilliivey
    Botmac wrote: »
    How do I resign from the club phil ? Ya GTA I only play a couple of tourneys a week, I think that what frustrates me the most, trying to play the best game I can and watching donks win hand after hand with terrible calls and great luck. I know they are donkaments and I should not expect much more from alot of the players, but man it is so frustrating. Rant over (for now ;)



    I have no idea, when you find out the answer let me know!;)
  • UnknownUnknown
    Botmac wrote: »
    How do I resign from the club phil ? Ya GTA I only play a couple of tourneys a week, I think that what frustrates me the most, trying to play the best game I can and watching donks win hand after hand with terrible calls and great luck. I know they are donkaments and I should not expect much more from alot of the players, but man it is so frustrating. Rant over (for now ;)

    it seems to me it will happen about 20 times in 100, which will always seem like a lot if you think aces are unbeatable it is not the best hand to have it is just the easiest to play.


    you didn't see my 95%+ chance to double up and take the lead in the 18k with 20 left im guessing. 3 outer all in on the turn...beat
  • BotmacBotmac
    Man oh man when will it end, been running bad since march of 09

    Full Tilt Poker Game #22222591992: Daily Dollar (170387639), Table 341 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:12:16 ET - 2010/07/10
    Seat 1: Selmir23 (1,805)
    Seat 2: wzw999 (3,950)
    Seat 3: eppe1e1 (6,980)
    Seat 4: dollar_bills001 (6,095)
    Seat 5: DEMONS666 (2,010)
    Seat 6: Wrylond (5,705)
    Seat 7: Donkd (6,790)
    Seat 8: Laplaie2 (2,940)
    Seat 9: Botmac (2,725)
    Laplaie2 posts the small blind of 30
    Botmac posts the big blind of 60
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Botmac [4c 4d]
    Selmir23 raises to 120
    wzw999 folds
    eppe1e1 folds
    dollar_bills001 calls 120
    DEMONS666 calls 120
    Wrylond has 15 seconds left to act
    Wrylond calls 120
    Donkd folds
    Laplaie2 folds
    Botmac calls 60
    *** FLOP *** [4h Ac Ad]
    Botmac checks
    Selmir23 bets 60
    dollar_bills001 calls 60
    DEMONS666 has 15 seconds left to act
    DEMONS666 raises to 400
    Wrylond has 15 seconds left to act
    Wrylond raises to 1,260
    Botmac raises to 2,605, and is all in
    Selmir23 folds
    dollar_bills001 folds
    DEMONS666 folds
    Wrylond calls 1,345
    Botmac shows [4c 4d]
    Wrylond shows [2h Ah]
    *** TURN *** [4h Ac Ad] [As]
    *** RIVER *** [4h Ac Ad As] [7s]
    Botmac shows a full house, Aces full of Fours
    Wrylond shows four of a kind, Aces
    Wrylond wins the pot (6,360) with four of a kind, Aces
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 6,360 | Rake 0
    Board: [4h Ac Ad As 7s]
    Seat 1: Selmir23 folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: wzw999 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: eppe1e1 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: dollar_bills001 folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: DEMONS666 folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: Wrylond showed [2h Ah] and won (6,360) with four of a kind, Aces
    Seat 7: Donkd (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: Laplaie2 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: Botmac (big blind) showed [4c 4d] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Fours
  • DennisGDennisG
    You are going to see a lot more bad beats and suckouts when playing these level tourneys. Plain and simple. People are getting it in more often with the worse hand, therefor are having the opportunity to suck out more often.

    As bad as it is...it happens at every level. Just in the micros and lows, a lot more.
  • HVEEPOKERHVEEPOKER
    This is why I don't play cash or money tourney's on the internet.
  • DennisGDennisG
    HVEEPOKER wrote: »
    This is why I don't play cash or money tourney's on the internet.

    You are implying that bad beats and suckouts don't happen live? I want to play at your tables..
  • JimmyHoJimmyHo
    maybe because its a $2 tournament ? ? ?
  • HVEEPOKERHVEEPOKER
    DennisG wrote: »
    You are implying that bad beats and suckouts don't happen live? I want to play at your tables..

    Come on down . I am not implying that it dosen't happen at live games but it seems to happen more on the internet sites than any of the places that I play. I have seen it more than most.
    I want to see who's dealing the cards. I want to see live bodies of the people I am playing against.
    I just think that something is going on behind the scenes on some of these sites. That's why I don't play on them.
    I am sure there are quite a few players who say the same thing or feel the same way.
    If someone is silly enough or naive enough to push their stack after flopping a boat 4's over aces, not thinking that someone may have 1 ace and could hit on the turn or the river then they deserve to lose their money.
    If I had the ace in my hand I would be calling this raise too. 99% of us would.
  • philliiveyphilliivey
    pokerJAH wrote: »
    maybe because its a $2 tournament ? ? ?


    Discrimination

    HVEEPOKER wrote: »
    Come on down . I am not implying that it dosen't happen at live games but it seems to happen more on the internet sites than any of the places that I play. I have seen it more than most.
    I want to see who's dealing the cards. I want to see live bodies of the people I am playing against.
    I just think that something is going on behind the scenes on some of these sites. That's why I don't play on them.
    I am sure there are quite a few players who say the same thing or feel the same way.
    If someone is silly enough or naive enough to push their stack after flopping trip 4's, not thinking that someone may have a higher pair and could hit on the turn or the river then they deserve to lose their money.


    hveepoker, you are my favorite poster of as late.:)
  • BotmacBotmac
    Well HVEEPOKER I will make that push every time because I am a 77% chance to win the hand every time, nothing silly about it. Live or online it's +EV. And you keep calling and you'll go broke before I will.
  • philliiveyphilliivey
    Botmac wrote: »
    Well HVEEPOKER I will make that push every time because I am a 77% chance to win the hand every time, nothing silly about it. Live or online it's +EV. And you keep calling and you'll go broke before I will.



    Your one of my favorite's too botmac! :)

    Hope it turns around for you.
  • HVEEPOKERHVEEPOKER
    Botmac wrote: »
    Well HVEEPOKER I will make that push every time because I am a 77% chance to win the hand every time, nothing silly about it. Live or online it's +EV. And you keep calling and you'll go broke before I will.
    If you are 77% chance to win then Why Didn't you win?
    Nothing against you , I know cause I've been there in higher stakes tourneys and cash games. It taught me nothing is as it seems.
    I make that call weather I have 10's or higher. especially if I hit the trips after the flop.
    I had a guy dead to rights at Niagara back in January and he sucked out on the river in a 3 way massive pot.
    He payed 6-2os I had Q-Q Flop 6-Q-2.
    3rd guy had A-A I raised and they both called. Turn was a 6.
    I pushed and they both called me.
    River was the last 6. I bitched and moaned for a couple of days but it's part of the game.
    I just said that I see a lot more funny stuff on line. I dabbled in it last year and seen some strange stuff. Now I stay away from it.
    Live games I can watch the dealer and the players sitting around me.;)
  • DennisGDennisG
    HVEEPOKER wrote: »
    Come on down . I am not implying that it dosen't happen at live games but it seems to happen more on the internet sites than any of the places that I play.

    Of course it happens more...you are seeing 3-4x the amount of hands per hour.
    If someone is silly enough or naive enough to push their stack after flopping a boat 4's over aces, not thinking that someone may have 1 ace and could hit on the turn or the river then they deserve to lose their money.
    If I had the ace in my hand I would be calling this raise too. 99% of us would.

    I am getting as much of my stack, and as much as I can borrow from the guy beside me, into the middle when I flop the boat here.

    Would I call with the Ace?...yep. Would I giggle like a schoolgirl on the turn?....yep.
  • reibsreibs
    don't worry Phil, they are everywhere! Now I know ppl will criticize me for this play preflop, however, both the raiser and hoops were over 50 in vpip and PR for last 30 something hands. I had enough, and needed to make a move soon....then the wonderful poker gods gave me the perfect flop. I dont know how this guy could ever fold A6s here...???

    PokerStars Game #46803067832: Tournament #290484027, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2010/07/15 11:49:05 ET
    Table '290484027 49' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: jlroberts (8794 in chips)
    Seat 2: golfball25 (10865 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 3: lobbybobby (10260 in chips)
    Seat 4: REEBS77 (3186 in chips)
    Seat 5: screen99 (4535 in chips)
    Seat 6: sk3pt1c (2900 in chips)
    Seat 7: Casano01 (3444 in chips)
    Seat 8: reza_proton (3939 in chips)
    Seat 9: hoops101 (6381 in chips)
    jlroberts: posts the ante 10
    golfball25: posts the ante 10
    lobbybobby: posts the ante 10
    REEBS77: posts the ante 10
    screen99: posts the ante 10
    sk3pt1c: posts the ante 10
    Casano01: posts the ante 10
    reza_proton: posts the ante 10
    hoops101: posts the ante 10
    reza_proton: posts small blind 50
    hoops101: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to REEBS77 [4c 4h]
    jlroberts: folds
    golfball25: folds
    lobbybobby: folds
    REEBS77: raises 100 to 200
    screen99: calls 200
    sk3pt1c: folds
    Casano01: folds
    reza_proton: raises 400 to 600
    hoops101: calls 500
    REEBS77: calls 400
    screen99: calls 400
    *** FLOP *** [Qs 5d 4d]
    reza_proton: checks
    hoops101: bets 500
    REEBS77: raises 2076 to 2576 and is all-in
    screen99: folds
    reza_proton: folds
    hoops101: calls 2076
    *** TURN *** [Qs 5d 4d] [3s]
    *** RIVER *** [Qs 5d 4d 3s] [Js]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    hoops101: shows [As 6s] (a flush, Ace high)
    REEBS77: shows [4c 4h] (three of a kind, Fours)
    hoops101 collected 7642 from pot
    REEBS77 finished the tournament in 285th place
    reza_proton said, "lol"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7642 | Rake 0
    Board [Qs 5d 4d 3s Js]
    Seat 1: jlroberts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: golfball25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: lobbybobby folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: REEBS77 showed [4c 4h] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
    Seat 5: screen99 folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: sk3pt1c folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Casano01 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: reza_proton (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 9: hoops101 (big blind) showed [As 6s] and won (7642) with a flush, Ace high
  • GutsyGutsy
    You call that a knife? This is a knife!

    UTG+1: $20.00
    UTG+2: $29.89
    MP1: $30.38
    MP2: $29.94
    CO: $24.50
    BTN: $24.05
    SB: $23.75
    BB: $31.96
    Hero (UTG): $20.66

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Aclub.gif Adiamond.gif
    Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.75, 4 folds

    Flop: ($1.85) 2diamond.gif Theart.gif Aheart.gif(2 players)
    Hero bets $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75

    Turn: ($3.35) 8diamond.gif(2 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets $3.25, Hero raises to $9.25, MP2 calls $6

    River: ($21.85) 8heart.gif(2 players)
    Hero bets $9.91 all in, MP2 calls $9.91

    Final Pot: $41.67
    MP2 shows 8club.gif 8spade.gif (four of a kind, Eights)
    Hero shows Aclub.gif Adiamond.gif (a full house, Aces full of Eights)
    MP2 wins $39.67
    (Rake: $2.00)

    Happened a couple days ago, and I didn't go on tilt I just said in chat, "Poker's fun!"

    Sadly the session I'm playing right now isn't going so well. Getting kicked in the teeth on the river too often.
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