Haven't typed here for a while ...

The Prophet 22

Haven't typed here for a while ...

180 man 4.40 sit n go

blinds 100 400 800

2 tables of 9 left

you are second in chips 67k, small stack of tournament 18k ,and you have the table covered and rasie 2400 utg with pocket 10's. cut off goes all in for 30k and is snap called by button. both blinds fold. button has 36k. you have been playing with him for an hour an half now and has showdown 5 times and won all 5, 2 against you.

What is the correct play and what do you do.

Answer tomorrow

Prophet 22

WaterLooser

I insta-fold. You haven't invested that much in the pot. You are likely facing 4 overs. If you are LUCKY then they have one card covered and you are only facing 3 overs. You have a lot of chips and can find a better spot.

Wetts1012

turbo folding and its not close.

philliivey

whoa, who are these people in this thread?;):p

DrTyore

philliivey wrote: »

whoa, who are these people in this thread?;):p

The people with the right answers?

Mark

philliivey

DrTyore wrote: »

The people with the right answers?

Mark

But are they the right answers?

Phil

Unknown

we have a special thread in this forum for playing pocket 10's ep.....see this link

http://www.pokerforum.ca/f53/tt-ep-22648/

for a very simple explanation on playing TT.....

and yes you must lay down

actyper

Pretty sure theres only 2 hands that I call here with and one of them is a fml call.

Shtebs

philliivey wrote: »

But are they the right answers?

Phil

Yes.
Yes, they are the right answers.

philliivey

Shtebs wrote: »

Yes.
Yes, they are the right answers.

Sigh fold ftw!:)

HammerDad

It is a fold and not even close.

You have too many chips to be calling off 1/2 your stack there in the hope they are counterfitting each other and neither has an over pair.

If you had less chips, like ~15BB or so, it is a shove.

The Prophet 22

I know most of the people who responded here today and I agree that it is a qiick fold i am the guy who snapped called with pocket 44 I put the utg on a pair of 66 77 88 maybe AJ AQ and hoped by snap calling the all-in he would fold As for the other guy, he had could have any two face cards and I thought it was a flip He ended up with KJ off and I won the pot The other guy typed he had 1010 and would of won the pot Today's question was it worth the gamble to try such as a play or is that a flaw in my game

PS Pocket 10 guy finished third, I won

actyper

re the UTG raiser, you can't realistically put him on 66/77/88, AJ or AQ, you can only put him on 66+ / AJ+. Use hand ranges for preflop decisions rather than actual hands.

Isolating with 44 is hardly ever +ev, especially when it costs 1/2 your stack.

DrTyore

Brent

I think your ranges you put them on was what you hoped they were on, but you convinced yourself it was rationally thought out so you could justify the play you wanted to make.

Mark

HammerDad

DrTyore wrote: »

Brent

I think your ranges you put them on was what you hoped they were on, but you convinced yourself it was rationally thought out so you could justify the play you wanted to make.

Mark

I agree. I have a tendance of playing "what do I beat, oh they must have that".

Given the ranges of hands most players reraise and shove with, 1010 most of the time doesn't play well.

The call with 44 is absolutely a horribad spew. If UTG comes along or goes over the top, you've probably just spewed away your tournament. You got your chips in the middle in a coin flip and managed to hold on, which over a larger sample size is going to be -EV given the range of hands our opponents will be making these plays with.


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