Your Thoughts on this Approach

Played a lot of poker at the IP on my last trip to Vegas. 1-2 NL and would play very selectively and simply wait to get paid off by the drunks. One of the good players said I need to play more hands (and no I wasn't drunk at this point-I had played with him the previous night as well). My reponse was I am getting well paid for my good hands and any time I can limp and hit a flop as well. Why mix it up against the good players when the drunks reward me (and aren't paying attention anyways)? Any thoughts on this approach? Perhaps I am leaving money behind this way, but I am comfortable playing this way at the IP.
Young Grimmm

Comments

  • If the amount of money you're losing because of your hands your NOT playing is less than the amount of money you'd lose by playing in an uncomfortable manner, this is a good choice.

    Of course, your game doesn't improve.

    Mark
  • what are you worried about playing against so called 'good players'?
  • Jah you certainly have the confidence sir.

    Have to get some of that for myself .... requires practice and study

    I found myself slipping into that pattern in the micro stakes. Then I looked at the stats and I was calling too much and not driving the play especially from the blinds. So I forced myself out of my comfort zone and made myself play much more aggressively and wider. sucked at first but worth more now. hopefully the run continues and it isn't just variance.
  • I like to play lots of hands and almost always consider myself one of the best players at the table; however, if there are more than a few soft spots at the table and you feel that you are not one of the better players then wait and stack the drunks. Personally, I would mix it up more but taking the sure money is never a bad thing at the poker table. Table selection is an underrated skill and if you have a soft table then take the easy money.

    PS -- 2/5 in Vegas is as soft as 1/2, take a shot sometime with your winnings.
  • I think it comes down to playing in your comfort zone; I am a lot more comfortable playing 1/2-2/5 vs 5/5-5/10. Playing 1/2-2/5, I will play against anyone, anytime. You just have to adapt your game to the player. I find the most difficult players to play against are the super agresso types that hammer every street or have no problem re-raising with garbage. Then you just have to adapt to playing good hands and let them hammer away.

    If you are constantly making money, I wouldn't necessarily play more hands, just not fold because you are facing a certain player. You may just want to be in position against certain players depending on their playing style.
  • you should be looking for 'donks' not 'drunks'. its the micheal jordan principle...if your aiming for the back of the rim you will eventually stopping making baskets and start rimming the ball.

    alcohol in mass mass quantity does not effect my poker
  • Maybe the guy who told you to play more hands had noticed that you only raise with really good hands and was informing you that it might be a good idea to throw in a raise every once in awhile with a hand you normally wouldnt raise with. Not so much as playing more hands as it is mixing it up to keep people guessing. Even know some of the drunks may not notice that you are only raising or playing optimal hands, but you can't always depend on taking money off of drunks, because what happens when you find yourself playing at a table with no drunks.
  • You really don't have to do much to be profitable live, players just have too big egos for their own good, both drunks and regulars.

    Played a pot a couple of days ago in a 1,5/3 dollar game (against a "winning regular") where I limped Q10s from the button in a multiway limped pot, BB made it 12 dollars for some unknown reason and obviously everyone called.

    flop came 510Q with two clubs and I bet after it was checked to me and the only caller was the guy to my right, turn was another club (3c) and he donk bet me for 3/4 pot something...

    I decided to call him down and made a little trick I like to do to look weak: I flip the cards into a standing sideway position facing me and quickly act like I don't like them much, then I called. He shoved river, I called. He had no pair no draw

    -

    He spent the next half an hour berating me telling me I had no idea what the fuck I was doing and that I should quit playing poker, that he KNEW that I wasn't strong judging from the way I looked at my cards, that he was the best player at the table cause he could read people like a book, play many pots and bluff frequently bla bla bla...

    In the end I left the game 800 dollars up through a couple of herocalls and really no other efford whatsoever. You don't have to play many hands to be profitable, just taking advantage of drunks, idiots, douchebags etc will get you a long way. people with insane leaks aren't gonna run out cause (the majority of ) live players suck so much
  • ^^^ This is hillarious and so common. I love the "im goign to call and rep a flush! this is smart OOP."

    My fav thing to do in live poker is to the c/c river. I would say 4/5 times i put the villian on a draw, it misses the river and i check to them, they ship their chips. Its wonderful....
    EDIT: ESPECIALLY when you can do it with an underpair or even A high.
  • Richard~ wrote: »
    He spent the next half an hour berating me telling me..... that he KNEW that I wasn't strong judging from the way I looked at my cards,

    nh. strength is relative, he still thinks you were weak and you still know you were strong.
  • I hate guys like that. They sit there shooting off their mouths about how good they are and they can't play cash poker worth a pinch of coon crap. You just want to reach over and slap the Donkey in the kisser. Take some more of his money first.
    I played against a guy like this a couple of weeks ago. I sat down beside him and right off the start I was hitting hands and began chiseling away at his stack. I took about 700 from him before he finally got up and left.
  • You shouldn't just limp and hope to crush the drunks. You should raise your good hands to give it more value to it. It is more profitable that way. As you said, the drunks will pay u off. By doing this, you get paid more if u are to hit. By limping in, if they have nothing, they would fold and u make less than you could have.

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