Is this fine?

Richard~

If the flop doesn't look like we can make an unknown villain bend to our will in one shot, we just fire again right? I've been exerimenting with double barreling quite a bit lately

Full Tilt Poker Game #20911070927: $16,000 KO Guarantee (160739597), Table 72 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:35:52 ET - 2010/05/17
Seat 1: nbgshark (66,552)
Seat 2: jazzmatik (7,291)
Seat 3: llRichardll (102,048)
Seat 4: roulsurlor (44,248)
Seat 5: Rae2469 (46,277)
Seat 6: hopp hop (72,772)
Seat 7: tallfatguy (39,057)
Seat 8: sini51 (11,602)
Seat 9: fatboy66 (30,265)
nbgshark antes 200
jazzmatik antes 200
llRichardll antes 200
roulsurlor antes 200
Rae2469 antes 200
hopp hop antes 200
tallfatguy antes 200
sini51 antes 200
fatboy66 antes 200
Rae2469 posts the small blind of 800
hopp hop posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to llRichardll [:6h :7h]
Rae2469: and u hit the set
tallfatguy folds
sini51 folds
Rae2469: wow
fatboy66: I have been a bit cad dead lately
fatboy66 folds
nbgshark folds
jazzmatik folds
llRichardll raises to 4,000
roulsurlor folds
Rae2469 calls 3,200
Rae2469: that's ok another hour befor final table
hopp hop has 15 seconds left to act
hopp hop folds
*** FLOP *** [:3d :4s :qh]
Rae2469 checks
llRichardll bets 6,500
Rae2469 calls 6,500
*** TURN *** [:3d :4s :qh] [:ks]
Rae2469 checks
llRichardll bets 13,000
Rae2469 folds
Uncalled bet of 13,000 returned to llRichardll
llRichardll mucks
llRichardll wins the pot (24,400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 24,400 | Rake 0
Board: [3d 4s Qh Ks]
Seat 1: nbgshark folded before the Flop
Seat 2: jazzmatik folded before the Flop
Seat 3: llRichardll collected (24,400), mucked
Seat 4: roulsurlor (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Rae2469 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: hopp hop (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: tallfatguy folded before the Flop
Seat 8: sini51 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: fatboy66 folded before the Flop

Unknown

i will always evaluate before c-betting either street. the post flop call suggests a pocket pair, and since its likely under qq i'd definitely bet the turn.

Wetts1012

Double barrel here is turn dependent.

The K is the perfect double barrel card imo. Also, A/J/10 are good cards here.

Villain may call 1 bullet with 55-1010, straight draws here, but not 2.

NH.

Unknown

im railin ya in the 16k rick

Unknown

valiant effort, nice cash

Richard~

He was pretty sick heads up, nice 4 bet shove with K8o and all those 35-40 BB 3bet shoves

2/775 for 2,3k anyway. gg

Unknown

Richard~ wrote: »

He was pretty sick heads up, nice 4 bet shove with K8o and all those 35-40 BB 3bet shoves

2/775 for 2,3k anyway. gg

yes was gonna comment on that, no doubt you could re shove aj. his 3 bet shoves maybe you could play different but i suspect not with the cards you initially bet with. seen you over play aq twice maybe but other than that was happy to watch your play.

Unknown

now to sneak outa the house to get some chew without my neighbors seeing me and giving me the "dude mow your fucking lawn" look.

Richard~

darbday wrote: »

yes was gonna comment on that, no doubt you could re shove aj. his 3 bet shoves maybe you could play different but i suspect not with the cards you initially bet with. seen you over play aq twice maybe but other than that was happy to watch your play.

Is it possible to overplay AQ with 20 BB effective stacks and no 3 bet in front of you lol?

Unknown

Richard~ wrote: »

Is it possible to overplay AQ with 20 BB effective stacks and no 3 bet in front of you lol?

i saw 3 good ones i think...and 2 i thought you should post here.

Richard~

I'm just curious since I don't know which once you're talking about. I did overplay AQo early midgame against a late position 4,5x raise from a big stack who had just moved tables and ended up 3bet calling again JJ in a huge pot (but you weren't railing that early I think).

Lategame there was a spot when I shoved AQ from the SB against a button limp with effective stacks 14 BB's or soemthing and the BB woke up with AK but that seems pretty standard too.


Actaully I'll look at the HH tomorrow since I have a coaching session with HerchelW so I might find the hands you're talking about then

Unknown

Hand #20912680025

and the hand vs ak is Hand #20912874588 but you had like 20 plus bb and you just shoved allin pre flop with 2 limpers.

anyways, thought theyd be good to discuss, but your working with a pro so obv what he says is more important.

Richard~

Full Tilt Poker Game #20912680025: $16,000 KO Guarantee (160739597), Table 39 - 3000/6000 Ante 750 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:51:46 ET - 2010/05/17
Seat 1: omega5507 (68,068)
Seat 2: llRichardll (325,906)
Seat 3: Csecse825 (118,240)
Seat 4: handroma00 (43,178)
Seat 5: holdi12 (114,783)
Seat 6: rag1010 (113,560)
Seat 8: Peetje81 (167,734)
omega5507 antes 750
llRichardll antes 750
Csecse825 antes 750
handroma00 antes 750
holdi12 antes 750
rag1010 antes 750
Peetje81 antes 750
omega5507 posts the small blind of 3,000
llRichardll posts the big blind of 6,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to llRichardll [:qc :as]
Csecse825 folds
handroma00 folds
KingLatz (Observer): da_professional and kennl 2 quality players on here
holdi12 folds
rag1010 raises to 18,000
KingLatz (Observer): watch them 2 a lot
Peetje81 folds
omega5507 folds
llRichardll raises to 52,000
rag1010 calls 34,000
*** FLOP *** [:8s :9s :2s]
llRichardll bets 112,250
rag1010 calls 60,810, and is all in
llRichardll shows [:qc :as]
rag1010 shows [:ts :10d]
Uncalled bet of 51,440 returned to llRichardll
*** TURN *** [:8s :9s :2s] [:kc]
*** RIVER *** [:8s :9s :2s :kc] [:3c]
llRichardll shows Ace King high
rag1010 shows a pair of Tens
rag1010 wins the pot (233,870) with a pair of Tens
Ryman30 (Observer): WOW
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 233,870 | Rake 0
Board: [8s 9s 2s Kc 3c]
Seat 1: omega5507 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: llRichardll (big blind) showed [Qc As] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 3: Csecse825 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: handroma00 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: holdi12 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: rag1010 showed [Ts Td] and won (233,870) with a pair of Tens
Seat 8: Peetje81 (button) folded before the Flop


[] rungood imo

Don't really think it's overplaying if he's opening even a fairly tight range, and that flat by him is just ridiculous

Wetts1012

Seems OK/standardish.

Unknown

i agree if the opp. wants to play he should shove not call. in my small exp, i find the opp raises with a pair or an ace at least. and more often than not its aj+ or a pair. i think hell toss 22-66 to the re raise maybe. i also think if your going to commit him then you should shove him all in which puts you aqo vs. 77+,aj+ (plus some fold equity?). I don't like that when i have a decent stack, i'd rather just call and look for an ace or a queen on the flop. although it may not have changed much, you may have had a chance to fold to a turn shove. But that's that's not exactly fair say cause we got to see the hand. I don't like to stack off with aq all the time because its the losing hand to much.

Richard~

darbday wrote: »

in my small exp, i find the opp raises with a pair or an ace at least.

Problem lies with you putting him on this range. He can be opening 910s for all I know

Unknown

Richard~ wrote: »

Problem lies with you putting him on this range. He can be opening 910s for all I know

i don't see enough people do that, but i suppose that its a higher stake game than what i play. but im still not looking to stack off preflop, and i think thats what essentially what you did. but i see your side of it then thx.

kctse

In my opinion, I think your opponent has an Ace high calling you. First, he called you preflop. Then he called you on the flop to see what you will do on the turn. You bet pretty strong on the turn. Your opponent pretty convinced you have something and would not risk anymore and folds.

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