Jeff Sarwer.....anyone know this crazy cat?
wow....
JEFF SARWER'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE
Canadian kid born to a fairly nutz father. Was a child chess prodigy until he disappeared once children's aid society tried to take he and his sister away. His dad took off with them. Didn't surface for years after that.
Now he is starting to take on poker. 3 cashes in europe and Shaun Deeb has said that he is quitting poker in part due to how good this guy is.
could be one to watch for sure.
JEFF SARWER'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE
Canadian kid born to a fairly nutz father. Was a child chess prodigy until he disappeared once children's aid society tried to take he and his sister away. His dad took off with them. Didn't surface for years after that.
Now he is starting to take on poker. 3 cashes in europe and Shaun Deeb has said that he is quitting poker in part due to how good this guy is.
could be one to watch for sure.
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he should get in line with Mike Macdonald for fall registration at Waterloo.. couple lucky cashes doesn't make a poker career.
LOL wat?????
don't believe in poker prodigies, personally. Too much luck factor in poker.
lolzzzzzz
my point is,even if your opponent has a one outer on the river, after four days of playing one of these major tourney's, if doesn't matter how gifted you are as a player, eventually they will hit their one outer over so many hands. Luck plays a big part in making the money in these multi-day tournaments. Joe Cada's 2009 Main Event victory is a great example.
Obviously for one tourney, luck is a part of 'winning' (not cashing), but the more tourney's one plays, the role luck plays deteriorates. And trust me, they don't have an article on someone who has played one tourney and won.
As you were insinuating that Mike McDonald was a one hit wonder....which is obviously reason for lolzzzzz.
If we play heads up cash for 4 hours a night, 10 straight nights.....I win every session, guess that just makes me lucky?
winning heads up is a lot different than winning tournaments against random players.
Get a copy of Bluff magazine and check out the article. If the article is even half way above board this guy is legit shit. Not sure how much you know about chess, but this guy was playing 30 multi-table on Canada day.....when he was 8! His mind works faster and on levels most people will never be able to comprehend never mind match.
Very true that 3 cashes does not a poker career make....but --> he never read a book, never had pro coaching so basically taught himself.
You seem very quick to knock that which you don't understand. I won't guarantee that this Sarwer is the second coming in the form of a poker player but I'm pretty sure if he puts his mind to it he will crush poker as it is currently played. Shaun Deeb knows his shit. (we may never know though as he is being encouraged to take up chess again.....)
If you were just looking to stir shit up, well done. Good debate is hard to come by these days.
Oh, and I called him a Canadian kid but he hasn't lived much of his life here at all. not sure if he identifies too strongly with Canada.
In the article I read he did mention that he read the Harrington books before playing his first major tournament. Would definitely like to see how he holds up in cash games though.
trust me when I say I know how the game of poker works. Not looking to stir shit, I just think too many people over glorify a game of chance. Granted there is a larger component of skill than other forms of gambling, but it is fundamently a 'game' and always will remain a game. Unlike chess.
please stick to floor games
At one time I would have considered myself a pretty good chess player, that did not translate into being a pretty good poker player..
more or less what I was trying to convey. People always seem to overlook the simple fact where poker rooms are situated.
it can't translate because your fundamental beliefs between the two are different
Are you really trying to say the two are similar?
maybe wisdom comes with age... they will get it eventually.....
Same with me, I started with just studying all the tv poker coverage and I have only read 1 poker book. Then of course I got some free coaching and then came to poker forums,etc etc;)
+ev plays * increased hours of play = 1 * more and more profit
the chances of profiting are built into the formula, but the chance of it happening over time increases towards 100%.
playing good poker assures you the more you play the more you make.
That's why there are so many "flash" in the pans, here today gone tomorrow... and so many go bust multiple times, I suspect mostly because of their "other" vices...
glad you agree thought i was crazy. and the more often you play optimally the higher the skill level you are and skill level defines profit. as far as how many hours for what profit i wish i knew.
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But if this guy sticks with poker......I will revive this thread when he crushes the game.
The fact that this guy is a chess Master (read the article in Bluff while I was in Cuba, and cannot remember if he achieved Grand Master status), means he has a very discplined, if odd, way of thinking. This alone would give him a significant advantage at the tables, in terms of monitoring betting patterns, opponent activity (tight/loose, weak/aggro), etc.
This guy is definitely going to be interesting to watch, though . . .
Jeff has read this thread. He has had more than 3 cashes (not that they matter much). If anyone would like to follow his stats, you can view them here:
Jeffrey William Sarwer: Hendon Mob Poker Database
IMO: A lot of the skills learned from chess can be put to use in poker. I don't see how anyone could say anything otherwise. Just requires a little thought if you can't see it now.
Don't think this guy will 'crush' the game anymore than any other player with the bankroll to play these major tournaments. Too much variance with these large fields. I assume he will be playing a lot of WSOP events.
Must be hundreds of guys just like him..
the problem with these databases is they only track their cashes, not the tournaments they placed out of the money.
If Jeff Sarwer is playing in a bunch of the WSOP events, I will take a random player who is also playing in the majority of the WSOP events that my random player earns more in winnings during these tournaments. Say for $50. Any interest?