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can we shove this?

no real info, standard type player. i go for a standard steal type play, and get basically shoved on the flop. the only hands i have him on i can beat are pp's or a bluff, but the only hand i can see him having that beats me is like a AQ....


***** Hand History for Game 20667565114 ***** (Full Tilt)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, May 08, 02:26:07 ET 2010
Table 2500 Guarantee (Cashout) (158734740) Table 21 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: forboon ( $98808.00 USD )
Seat 3: thasizzla ( $148371.00 USD )
Seat 4: slempmayor ( $114680.00 USD )
Seat 5: voron24 ( $102680.00 USD )
Seat 6: CS224 ( $42900.00 USD )
Seat 7: wesley3682 ( $18737.00 USD )
Seat 8: julyriver ( $317781.00 USD )
Seat 9: mb26 ( $103620.00 USD )
thasizzla posts small blind [$2500.00 USD].
slempmayor posts big blind [$5000.00 USD].
forboon posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
thasizzla posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
slempmayor posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
voron24 posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
CS224 posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
wesley3682 posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
julyriver posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
mb26 posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to forboon [ Jh Js ]
voron24 folds
CS224 folds
wesley3682 folds
julyriver folds
mb26 folds
forboon raises [$17500.00 USD]
thasizzla calls [$15000.00 USD]
slempmayor folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, Qs, 3c ]
thasizzla bets [$44800.00 USD]
forboon???

Comments

  • Is that an exact pot bet? If so I jam it in and say fml when he shows me the 10 and the Q.

    Seriously tho, pot bet clicking monkeys arent typically looking at effective stacks, FE, etc., so it wouldnt surprise me if you jam and he folds.

    I'd be more worried if he donk led like 28-32K. Then I think we sigh fold.
  • Wetts1012 wrote: »
    Is that an exact pot bet? If so I jam it in and say fml when he shows me the 10 and the Q.

    Seriously tho, pot bet clicking monkeys arent typically looking at effective stacks, FE, etc., so it wouldnt surprise me if you jam and he folds.

    I'd be more worried if he donk led like 28-32K. Then I think we sigh fold.

    not just looking for your posts but since no one answered i'll spill it. he showed kqs which is prob the one other hand i could put him on that beat me. he wasn't a loose player, fairly average seemed like he knew poker decently although i couldn't see anything justifying the bet. i never thought of the pot bet button so ill look for it and take notes on how people use it. i did expect him to fold as i couldn't see him on anything. if a guy is going to play a pp i would expect a re raise pre flop. but kq kt, ya fml....

    in hind sight im thinking i should shove preflop expecting to pick up the blinds which will give me enough to outplay the field until final 8 or so. it you though... that has me thinking i have to extract value from a weak call or re shove pre flop..


    thx i don't feel so bad...
    kqs was the only hand though that could be argued he played fine i think...
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