Aces pre flop questions

This has been driving me crazy all day, series of questions coming up:

1: You've won a seat at the WSOP main event. You fly to vegas, sit down in the BB and start unpacking your things. UTG goes all in for 54536345 BB's, UTG+1 CALLS o.O, and the next guy calls. When it gets around to you there are no less than 5 ppl in the pot and you have Aces, what's your play?

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2: You're playing a loose 1/1 cashgame at a friends house. People have had some drinks and again you're in the BB, the action before you is once again crazy, 4 people get in huge bets before you and since they forget that you're still to act they proudly table their hands:

AA,KK, KK and AA

with which hand(s) do you NOT call all in for all your chips assuming even stacks?

76s
QJo
48o
107s
QQ

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The moral of the second question is that as long as you have equity > 20% you always want to get it in in a 5 way pot. But what if we link it to the 1st question. It goes something like this:

You're playing the WSOP, first hand mr R.andomdonk shoves it in from nothing, mr C.razylagtard calls, mr Phil Ivey calls, ms S.tarstruck notices phil ivey is in the pot and calls and you're in the BB with aces :confused:

Is there ever a time like this when you're equity with AA will not be good enough to make a call preflop? We can safely assume that Phil ivey has the two remaining aces here


Edit: figured this out myself once I finished writing lol, still it took some thought to get it right for me ^^'

Comments

  • Paging Pokerjah for the inevitable shitstorm . . .
  • we discussed that in a sit and go you would muck your aces, not sure if it applies to first hand mtt.
  • I pretty much figured it out myself. Just because someone might be in a great spot with a worse hand doesn't mean you have to be in a bad spot. It all evens out because someone is going to be getting it in with terrible equity
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