Analyze my game.......
Okay I have been using Poker tracker to analyze my game. I would appreciate some feedback on how my game looks and what areas I could improve. I find pokertracker a little overwhelming so any help or comments would be appreciated. I have been playing .25/.50 holdem at Pokerstars and am currently up $37.80. What stats from poker tracker should I post so you guys can help me out by analyzing them?
Thanks
Jay
Thanks
Jay
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One of the stats to look at are Vol $ Put In The Pot (VP$IP). The higher the number the looser your game. A tight aggressive player is usually in the 17-19 range combined with a Preflop raise % over 8 or 9 I think. I bet the average for the tables you play at is over 30 VP$IP and a preflop raise % below 6. Lots of calling stations. Check the summary tab and you can compare your number against the average of all the other players you have stats on. If you see any player with more then 50 hands played with VP$IP over 80 that would be a player with maniac tendancies.
Keep in mind that you need a large enough sample to really analyse your game. Some say you need to have played about 10000+ hands or so.
Maybe if you post your stats from the General tab it would give players familiar with Pokertracker a better idea.
Vol put $ in Pot- 19.94%
Vol put $ in Pot SB - 37.57%
Folded SB to steal - 40.0
Folded BB to steal - 40.0
Att. to steal blinds - 12.2
Won$ WST - 31.28
BB/100 hands - 4.59
Went to SD % - 40.15
Won money at SD % - 50.31
PF Raise % - 8.61
What do you think?
There are other players here much more capable then what I am about to tell you and I am also anxious to read there responses. One thing for sure is that 1400 hands isn't enough to give you a definitive answer to the overall health of your game. BB/100 hands of 4.59 is very high. I salute you sir. However that will be difficult to maintain. 2 BB/100 is the mark of a winning player over a long long haul. A player who can maintain 4 over the long haul is one hell of a shark. That will also be difficult as you move up and face better players at higher limits.
Don't get too bogged down in the stats. What's more important is to look at how you play various situations. The stats can help you find leaks (am I defending my blinds too much? How am I faring when I do?) and confirm that you are maintaining a good tight\aggressive style through a long spell of bad cards. (aggression factor). I don't think they should be used to totally analyse your game though as that would suggest that there is a strict winning formula that you must follow. More important is to determine the type of player you want to be and then using the stats to see how you compare to the image of yourself, tweaking along the way as obvious leaks come to view.
The most important stat over time is your win rate.
What the stats do tell you;
Vol put $ in Pot- 19.94% -- (good you're not going crazy playing in every pot). I like looking at the stats and finding those players over 80 and then pulling up a seat at that table. There are many of these at Party.
Folded SB to steal - 40.0 -- (you're not averse to defending your blinds)
Folded BB to steal - 40.0
BB/100 hands - 4.59 (Sweeeeeeeeeeet)
Went to SD % - 40.15 (Funny but all your stats are close to my own except this one. I am at 26%. You go to the Showdown more often then I do)
Won money at SD % - 50.31 (you're going there with decent cards. Winning players are well over 50)
PF Raise % - 8.61 (That looks good to me. Don't mind building pots when you have good cards. Making the limpers pay when you have good cards.)
One thing for sure is that 1400 hands isn't enough to give you a definitive answer to the overall health of your game. BB/100 hands of 4.59 is very high. I salute you sir. However that will be difficult to maintain. 2 BB/100 is the mark of a winning player over a long long haul. A player who can maintain 4 over the long haul is one hell of a shark. That will also be difficult as you move up and face better players at higher limits.
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Playing those microlimit games, winning a large BB/Hour is completely sustainable in a game where players make mistakes hand over fist. The 1-2BB/100 rule applies for the higher limit players.
I think the thing to remember with these stats is that the hero is playing in loose-multiway pots in every hand played. So there are great odds for seeing the flop with a very large set of hands. Also the showdown % will be higher because the pots are larger so the crying calls are required.
I'd say the Preflop raise stat could probably be higher.. Your raises will get paid off by the calling stations.
Of course the key to analysing a game based on stats... Where do you want to go? Are you looking to move up to 50/100 over time or are you looking to grind around the low limits never really wanting to go beyong 3/6 or so (MMmmm bonuses..). You can pick up a ton of bad habits at microlimit poker that will get you paid off but get you killed in bigger games.
How much?---etc.
thanks,
I can do my best to fill you in. It is available at pokertracker.com. It is basically a database program that tracks tons of poker information, through the use of your online hand historys that can be downloaded off most of the oline poker sites.
It can track all the info that was previously mentioned but all your winnings, your hourly win rate, as well as all these stats for other players you have played against in the past. There is a "note" feature for players, hands, sessions etc. It also allows you to set up a rating system for players, based on criteria that you set. The program will then rate players (i.e. calling stations, fish, tight-aggressive etc), for you, based on this criteria.
Initially the program is quite overwhelming but I am starting to get a handle on it now. Poker tracker has a forum, with excellent technical support available.
You can download a trial version which allows you to analyze up to 1000 hands. You can then decide if it is worthwhile downloading the full verison which I believe costs $55.00 US. Based on my limited experience it has been well worth the price. Based on the fact that it tracks my winnings/losing alone makes worth while for me, plus there is a ton of other useful info if you take the time to use it.
Jay
As for the sample size, I think that 1,400 hands is more than enough data to have some reasonable confidence in these statistics with the exception of:
1. BB/100 hands. This is the stat where the numbers like 10,000+ hands that have been suggested previously are going to be needed. I'm thinking higher numbers still, like 50K to 100K hands, are required before you start talking "long term" results.
2. Folded SB & BB to a steal. My guess is that there is simply not enough pre-flop stealing going on to generate enough data for 1,400 hands played (hence 140 of each blind played assuming a full game, very few of which will be facing a steal-raise).
As for the remaining stats, the only one that really caught my attention is the 40% went to showdown when seeing the flop (WSD%). That particular number seemed a little high to me. If this number is in fact too high (one problem with PT stats is that it's sometimes hard to figure out what the theoretically "correct" numbers are), it indicates that your post-flop play is too loose.
ScottyZ
Thanks for the feedback Scotty. I agree that my post-flop play is likely a little loose. I also agree that I am not sure what that number should be either. Anyone have any ideas or want to add further discussion?
Thanks
Jay