A Couple Hands..
I was playing in the $5000 Freeroll tournament on PP for new people who deposit. 2038 entrants. Top 220 pay.
Just want some thoughts on how you would play these hands I thought I might have messed up on, kind of long. Thanks.
1. This hand probably had about 70 people left. Whoopie61 just moved to the table 2 hands ago and hand not played anything. No read on her/him.
NL Hold'em Trny:7587598 Level:14 Blinds (1000/2000) - Thursday, December 02, 02:41:46 EDT 2004
Table $5,000 New Player Freeroll(151964) Table #3 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: TiMSuM ( $32744 )
Seat 2: tflogicpoker ( $7717 )
Seat 3: bumpedup ( $24434 )
Seat 4: Flop_Quads ( $61763 )
Seat 5: AuPair ( $17440 )
Seat 6: Soonami51 ( $8050 )
Seat 7: ledbelly17 ( $33735 )
Seat 9: TinaG29 ( $9046 )
Seat 8: lickwood ( $34463 )
Seat 10: Whoopie61 ( $18050 )
Trny:7587598 Level:14
Blinds (1000/2000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TiMSuM [ Ah Kc ]
Whoopie61 calls [2000].
TiMSuM calls [2000]. -> UTG +1. I think I should have raised. I got exactly the same hand the previous hand and raised pre-flop. No Callers. My thinking was trying to switch it up.
tflogicpoker folds.
bumpedup folds.
Flop_Quads folds.
AuPair folds.
Soonami51 folds.
ledbelly17 folds.
lickwood folds.
TinaG29 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, Qc, 3h ]
TinaG29 checks.
Whoopie61 bets [2000]. -> I put him on a Kx here.
TiMSuM raises [4000]. -> Raised b/c I have a top kicker.
TinaG29 folds.
Whoopie61 calls [2000]. -> Didn't put him on Heart draw.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
Whoopie61 checks.
TiMSuM bets [2000]. -> Trying to define what kind of hand he has.
Whoopie61 calls [2000].
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
Whoopie61 checks.
TiMSuM checks.
Whoopie61 shows [ Kd, 3d ] two pairs, kings and threes.
TiMSuM doesn't show [ Ah, Kc ] a pair of kings.
Whoopie61 wins 19000 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and threes.
2. Was this the right move to call the extra 3600? My initial raise put two people all-in already. The last guy Soonami51 did a re-raise all-in.
NL Hold'em Trny:7587598 Level:15 Blinds (1500/3000) - Thursday, December 02, 03:00:51 EDT 2004
Table $5,000 New Player Freeroll(151964) Table #3 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: TiMSuM ( $20244 )
Seat 2: stacia0719 ( $24820 )
Seat 3: bumpedup ( $7667 )
Seat 4: Flop_Quads ( $107197 )
Seat 5: AuPair ( $3940 )
Seat 6: Soonami51 ( $9600 )
Seat 7: ledbelly17 ( $55181 )
Seat 8: lickwood ( $40463 )
Seat 10: Whoopie61 ( $17550 )
Trny:7587598 Level:15
Blinds (1500/3000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TiMSuM [ Tc Ah ]
lickwood folds.
Whoopie61 folds.
TiMSuM raises [6000].
stacia0719 folds.
bumpedup is all-In.
Flop_Quads folds.
Rev_J has joined the table.
Player Rev_J has been seated on table $5,000 New Player Freeroll(151964) Table #6 table
AuPair is all-In.
Soonami51 is all-In.
ledbelly17 folds.
TiMSuM calls [3600].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, Jh, 8c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
TiMSuM shows [ Tc, Ah ] two pairs, tens and eights.
bumpedup shows [ 9d, Ac ] a pair of eights.
AuPair shows [ Ks, Kd ] two pairs, kings and eights.
Soonami51 shows [ Qd, Qc ] two pairs, queens and eights.
Player bumpedup finished in 49 place and received $15.5
Soonami51 wins 3866 chips from side pot #2 with two pairs, queens and eights.
Soonami51 wins 11181 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, queens and eights.
AuPair wins 18760 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and eights.
bumpedup has left the table.
3. Opponent stacia0719 came in the table with about $40k and it dwindled down to his/her current stack. Never saw their hand actually go to a showdown so didn't know what they were holding. I saw a few missed steal attempts from them. About 45 people left in the tourney. Avg is well over $30k.
NL Hold'em Trny:7587598 Level:16 Blinds (2000/4000) - Thursday, December 02, 03:07:20 EDT 2004
Table $5,000 New Player Freeroll(151964) Table #3 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: TiMSuM ( $21788 )
Seat 2: stacia0719 ( $24820 )
Seat 4: Flop_Quads ( $137797 )
Seat 5: AuPair ( $24760 )
Seat 6: Soonami51 ( $15047 )
Seat 7: ledbelly17 ( $24581 )
Seat 8: lickwood ( $35963 )
Seat 9: Rev_J ( $20290 )
Seat 10: Whoopie61 ( $1906 )
Trny:7587598 Level:16
Blinds (2000/4000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TiMSuM [ Qc 8s ]
Flop_Quads folds.
AuPair folds.
Soonami51 folds.
ledbelly17 folds.
lickwood folds.
Rev_J folds.
Whoopie61 folds.
TiMSuM calls [2000]. -> in SB
stacia0719 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Td, Ac ]
TiMSuM bets [4000].
stacia0719 raises [8000]. -> At first I put her on the Ax, but then I thought about and thought she was stealing. If I called I had 11K to work with. At this point I think I should have re-raised all-in.
TiMSuM folds.
stacia0719 does not show cards.
stacia0719 wins 20000 chips
4. Hand I got busted out on. Placed 44 out of 2038. Paid $15.50. lol.
NL Hold'em Trny:7587598 Level:16 Blinds (2000/4000) - Thursday, December 02, 03:08:23 EDT 2004
Table $5,000 New Player Freeroll(151964) Table #3 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: TiMSuM ( $13788 )
Seat 2: stacia0719 ( $32820 )
Seat 4: Flop_Quads ( $137797 )
Seat 5: AuPair ( $24760 )
Seat 6: Soonami51 ( $15047 )
Seat 7: ledbelly17 ( $24581 )
Seat 8: lickwood ( $35963 )
Seat 9: Rev_J ( $20290 )
Seat 10: Whoopie61 ( $1906 )
Trny:7587598 Level:16
Blinds (2000/4000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TiMSuM [ Jd Jh ]
AuPair folds.
Soonami51 folds.
ledbelly17 folds.
lickwood folds.
Rev_J folds.
Whoopie61 folds.
TiMSuM is all-In.
stacia0719 is all-In.
Flop_Quads folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, Ac, 5c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
stacia0719 shows [ Ad, Qh ] a pair of aces.
TiMSuM shows [ Jd, Jh ] a pair of jacks.
stacia0719 wins 19032 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of aces.
stacia0719 wins 31576 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
TiMSuM has left the table.
Just want some thoughts on how you would play these hands I thought I might have messed up on, kind of long. Thanks.
1. This hand probably had about 70 people left. Whoopie61 just moved to the table 2 hands ago and hand not played anything. No read on her/him.
NL Hold'em Trny:7587598 Level:14 Blinds (1000/2000) - Thursday, December 02, 02:41:46 EDT 2004
Table $5,000 New Player Freeroll(151964) Table #3 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: TiMSuM ( $32744 )
Seat 2: tflogicpoker ( $7717 )
Seat 3: bumpedup ( $24434 )
Seat 4: Flop_Quads ( $61763 )
Seat 5: AuPair ( $17440 )
Seat 6: Soonami51 ( $8050 )
Seat 7: ledbelly17 ( $33735 )
Seat 9: TinaG29 ( $9046 )
Seat 8: lickwood ( $34463 )
Seat 10: Whoopie61 ( $18050 )
Trny:7587598 Level:14
Blinds (1000/2000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TiMSuM [ Ah Kc ]
Whoopie61 calls [2000].
TiMSuM calls [2000]. -> UTG +1. I think I should have raised. I got exactly the same hand the previous hand and raised pre-flop. No Callers. My thinking was trying to switch it up.
tflogicpoker folds.
bumpedup folds.
Flop_Quads folds.
AuPair folds.
Soonami51 folds.
ledbelly17 folds.
lickwood folds.
TinaG29 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, Qc, 3h ]
TinaG29 checks.
Whoopie61 bets [2000]. -> I put him on a Kx here.
TiMSuM raises [4000]. -> Raised b/c I have a top kicker.
TinaG29 folds.
Whoopie61 calls [2000]. -> Didn't put him on Heart draw.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
Whoopie61 checks.
TiMSuM bets [2000]. -> Trying to define what kind of hand he has.
Whoopie61 calls [2000].
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
Whoopie61 checks.
TiMSuM checks.
Whoopie61 shows [ Kd, 3d ] two pairs, kings and threes.
TiMSuM doesn't show [ Ah, Kc ] a pair of kings.
Whoopie61 wins 19000 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and threes.
2. Was this the right move to call the extra 3600? My initial raise put two people all-in already. The last guy Soonami51 did a re-raise all-in.
NL Hold'em Trny:7587598 Level:15 Blinds (1500/3000) - Thursday, December 02, 03:00:51 EDT 2004
Table $5,000 New Player Freeroll(151964) Table #3 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: TiMSuM ( $20244 )
Seat 2: stacia0719 ( $24820 )
Seat 3: bumpedup ( $7667 )
Seat 4: Flop_Quads ( $107197 )
Seat 5: AuPair ( $3940 )
Seat 6: Soonami51 ( $9600 )
Seat 7: ledbelly17 ( $55181 )
Seat 8: lickwood ( $40463 )
Seat 10: Whoopie61 ( $17550 )
Trny:7587598 Level:15
Blinds (1500/3000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TiMSuM [ Tc Ah ]
lickwood folds.
Whoopie61 folds.
TiMSuM raises [6000].
stacia0719 folds.
bumpedup is all-In.
Flop_Quads folds.
Rev_J has joined the table.
Player Rev_J has been seated on table $5,000 New Player Freeroll(151964) Table #6 table
AuPair is all-In.
Soonami51 is all-In.
ledbelly17 folds.
TiMSuM calls [3600].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, Jh, 8c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
TiMSuM shows [ Tc, Ah ] two pairs, tens and eights.
bumpedup shows [ 9d, Ac ] a pair of eights.
AuPair shows [ Ks, Kd ] two pairs, kings and eights.
Soonami51 shows [ Qd, Qc ] two pairs, queens and eights.
Player bumpedup finished in 49 place and received $15.5
Soonami51 wins 3866 chips from side pot #2 with two pairs, queens and eights.
Soonami51 wins 11181 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, queens and eights.
AuPair wins 18760 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and eights.
bumpedup has left the table.
3. Opponent stacia0719 came in the table with about $40k and it dwindled down to his/her current stack. Never saw their hand actually go to a showdown so didn't know what they were holding. I saw a few missed steal attempts from them. About 45 people left in the tourney. Avg is well over $30k.
NL Hold'em Trny:7587598 Level:16 Blinds (2000/4000) - Thursday, December 02, 03:07:20 EDT 2004
Table $5,000 New Player Freeroll(151964) Table #3 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: TiMSuM ( $21788 )
Seat 2: stacia0719 ( $24820 )
Seat 4: Flop_Quads ( $137797 )
Seat 5: AuPair ( $24760 )
Seat 6: Soonami51 ( $15047 )
Seat 7: ledbelly17 ( $24581 )
Seat 8: lickwood ( $35963 )
Seat 9: Rev_J ( $20290 )
Seat 10: Whoopie61 ( $1906 )
Trny:7587598 Level:16
Blinds (2000/4000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TiMSuM [ Qc 8s ]
Flop_Quads folds.
AuPair folds.
Soonami51 folds.
ledbelly17 folds.
lickwood folds.
Rev_J folds.
Whoopie61 folds.
TiMSuM calls [2000]. -> in SB
stacia0719 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Td, Ac ]
TiMSuM bets [4000].
stacia0719 raises [8000]. -> At first I put her on the Ax, but then I thought about and thought she was stealing. If I called I had 11K to work with. At this point I think I should have re-raised all-in.
TiMSuM folds.
stacia0719 does not show cards.
stacia0719 wins 20000 chips
4. Hand I got busted out on. Placed 44 out of 2038. Paid $15.50. lol.
NL Hold'em Trny:7587598 Level:16 Blinds (2000/4000) - Thursday, December 02, 03:08:23 EDT 2004
Table $5,000 New Player Freeroll(151964) Table #3 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: TiMSuM ( $13788 )
Seat 2: stacia0719 ( $32820 )
Seat 4: Flop_Quads ( $137797 )
Seat 5: AuPair ( $24760 )
Seat 6: Soonami51 ( $15047 )
Seat 7: ledbelly17 ( $24581 )
Seat 8: lickwood ( $35963 )
Seat 9: Rev_J ( $20290 )
Seat 10: Whoopie61 ( $1906 )
Trny:7587598 Level:16
Blinds (2000/4000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TiMSuM [ Jd Jh ]
AuPair folds.
Soonami51 folds.
ledbelly17 folds.
lickwood folds.
Rev_J folds.
Whoopie61 folds.
TiMSuM is all-In.
stacia0719 is all-In.
Flop_Quads folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, Ac, 5c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
stacia0719 shows [ Ad, Qh ] a pair of aces.
TiMSuM shows [ Jd, Jh ] a pair of jacks.
stacia0719 wins 19032 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of aces.
stacia0719 wins 31576 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
TiMSuM has left the table.
Comments
'Switching you your play' means play different hands the same way.. Not play the same hand different ways. You gotta raise that hand.
Whats up with the min betting? Raising the min with top pair isn't going to defend your hand. Also, when he calls your min raise, I think he still has flush draw odds, so no reason to think his original bet wasn't a semi-bluff..
Again, min better is allowing your opponent to get to the river as cheaply as possible. Plus the pot at the turn is still giving him great odds for a potential flush draw.
Yes. yer getting great pot odds although you will probably lose.
Eat your vegetables. That's a prime SB steal opportunity. Also, "Never go broke in an unraised pot" (I forget where I picked that one up from). You let the BB see the flop for free, so he/she/it's got anything. You are going to have to respect any raises, because the player has no real incentive to continue in the pot.
arent those the same things? i mean, playing different hands the same means that you have to play some hands different ways..lol
anyway, i agree with this. you have to raise. especially if you dont have any reads on this new guy.
scottyz mentioned this a couple days/weeks ago in one of my threads, and ive been thinking about it a lot during play. and if you dont know the guy, its probably better to raise with a good hand
oh and,
- doyle brunson (in supersystem i believe)