Bit of an ethical dilemma

Hobbes

Would be interested to hear your thoughts on this. (Already know what I am going to do).

I belong to a staking site and was rolled by a horse last June. He was reported and was banned from staking on the site. He has now returned to the site and marked my stake as complete and I assume that he is going to make this right.

Now here is where it gets tricky. He actually reported a profit even though he did not play the games that he was staked for.

The guy essentially stole money from me and disappeared from the site. On staking sites your actions (or lack of) can impact your relationship with other members of the site.


What to do? (Not what do you think I am going to do)

Poll is anonymous.

Milo

I would privately give him the opportunity to make things right. If he does not, then I say he gets what he deserves . . .

DennisG

He owes you the original money, let him do that privately...when/after he pays, ask him to remove the "profit" from the site standings.

If he doesn't pay, or remove the profit...fuck him, he doesn't deserve to be staked again...not that he does anyway...but he needs to be "outed"..no one else needs to be screwed either.

Hobbes

he already has a DNS (do not stake) beside his name so him paying me back will only allow him back on the site. The DNS will serve as a warning to others and very few (1 person in 2 years) ever get that removed from their profiles.

DennisG

Hobbes wrote: »

he already has a DNS (do not stake) beside his name so him paying me back will only allow him back on the site. The DNS will serve as a warning to others and very few (1 person in 2 years) ever get that removed from their profiles.

oh ok.,..never been on a staking site..so didn't know that. So..they let him back on, because he said he paid you back? Didn't they check with you first?

Hobbes

he only has limited access to the site to facilitate payback. and the rule is once he has paid his debt he gets full access to the site but still has the DNS on his profile for all to see.

The real issue is that since he did not play the games for me he only really owes the original money back but has reported to the site that he actually won some money for me which is incorrect

Unknown

what is the name of said staking site?

philliivey

I would just go for the original money or what he really owes or it may turn against you if you go with other option cause you would really be doing the same as him.

Also let me know when you run another bap you bastard:D

DennisG

Well, let him pay you the original money, then ask him to correct the error. If he doesn't, then contact the site and have them deal with him...won't amount to much, I know..but at least it will be stricken from the record that he didn't make that money, and it wasn't money you earned from being a staker at the site also...

ReefAquarium

Hobbes wrote: »

Would be interested to hear your thoughts on this. (Already know what I am going to do).

I belong to a staking site and was rolled by a horse last June. He was reported and was banned from staking on the site. He has now returned to the site and marked my stake as complete and I assume that he is going to make this right.

Now here is where it gets tricky. He actually reported a profit even though he did not play the games that he was staked for.

The guy essentially stole money from me and disappeared from the site. On staking sites your actions (or lack of) can impact your relationship with other members of the site.


What to do? (Not what do you think I am going to do)

Poll is anonymous.

Take the high road.

In the long run your reputation is worth more.

Sharantyr

I am not quite sure how everything works in regards to this. I am just wondering if him having a reported profit even though incorrect, will work to his benefit in regards to him being staked, even if there is a DNS warning for him?

More importantly, how does him showing profit for you, even though incorrect, affect you? Any action should ofcourse have your own personal interests at the core of the decision, whether they are for accuracy or reputation.

Hobbes

Sharantyr wrote: »

More importantly, how does him showing profit for you, even though incorrect, affect you? Any action should ofcourse have your own personal interests at the core of the decision, whether they are for accuracy or reputation.

Him showing a profit does 2 things:

1) He would owe me the money based on the split of the profit.
2) He would actually gain some player points which adds to his rep.

Sharantyr

Based on what I see here, I would tend to agree with those who say let him pay you the original money back. When that happens, request to have the profits he has shown corrected. If that is not something he wants to do, can you then still collect what he would owe you for said profits? Or is there other ways of correcting this? I personally do not think he should be able to benifit or add to his reputation at all because of this.

88Fingers

I would only expect the original amount to be given back. Since he did not play in the games you specified in the stake, the stake never truly completed.

If he offers/gives you more than that, ask him to explain himself and the profits. Why did he not play the games you agreed upon, etc.? I would refuse the profits myself. It would feel like dirty money in a way...

My concern would be how this credits/discredits you as a staker. If you take profits from someone who uses your money in a way you didn't agree on, it might set a precedent for future agreements. If you show yourself as someone who sticks to an agreement for what it is and expects the same in return, that also would set one.

Since he has the DNS flag, I probably would not post much about the history on the site itself but would be more than willing to give a synopsis to someone who was considering staking this person in the future. I would though PM the admins/mods to inform them of the agreement, discrepancy, and actions. If there is a way to 'challenge' his reported profits, I would do that too.