Tournament Director

Just got this (yes I paid for it) and I'm setting it up to display on my plasma flatscreen. Wondering if anyone else has ever done this and if they addressed the concern of burn in on the TV.

I thought I read somewhere that the guy who wrote the software had a feature that prevents this, but can't find it anywhere in the docs.

Anyhoo, so far it looks like a great program. Wayyyyy more features than I'll ever need but I wanted the "oooooooh, aaaaaaaaah" when people come to play at the house and see it on the big screen.

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  • Did the boss, aka girlfriend approve of this transaction?:D
  • Of course not. Now if she actually knew about the transaction part, that could elicit a 'discussion'. Nor did she approve of the purchase of a 25' vga cable as she didn't know what it was or what it's for. This is why I deal with most tech issues around the house. If she starts getting nosey, all I have to do is mention that we might need another remote control for the home theater and she runs for the hills.

    I love artsy mac people. Manipulating their fear of technology is fun and generally +EV.
  • Just got this (yes I paid for it) and I'm setting it up to display on my plasma flatscreen. Wondering if anyone else has ever done this and if they addressed the concern of burn in on the TV.

    I thought I read somewhere that the guy who wrote the software had a feature that prevents this, but can't find it anywhere in the docs.

    Anyhoo, so far it looks like a great program. Wayyyyy more features than I'll ever need but I wanted the "oooooooh, aaaaaaaaah" when people come to play at the house and see it on the big screen.

    I've done it for my LCD. Not sure I'd want to do it with a plasma or CRT, though. Burn-in would definitely be an issue. I'm not aware of any built-in feature to alleviate this - at least not in the version I'm running.

    My computer has a TV tuner, and I set up an unused region on the TD so I could have the hockey game playing and it would look like it naturally fits. Unfortunately I didn't take a screen shot, but I can share my 1080p layout if you're interested.

    Other pics of my various TD layouts can be seen over here:
    http://www.pokerforum.ca/f6/tournament-director-21368/#post210732
  • I think I remember the thread where your TD layouts were Inano. That link doesn't work though.

    Wow, fitting hockey on the same screen would be great. Lots of real estate.
  • Correct me if I'm wrong, as I probably am, but my understanding was Plasma/LCD screens do not get burn in. It's only projection tv's/monitors.
  • I think I remember the thread where your TD layouts were Inano. That link doesn't work though.

    Wow, fitting hockey on the same screen would be great. Lots of real estate.

    That's weird. I copied & pasted right out of my browser address bar. I'll try again:
    http://www.pokerforum.ca/f6/tournament-director-21368/
    *EDIT* For some reason, the URL has the "/f6" part missing. If you stick that in there (manually) it will work. Seems to be a bug with this version of vBulletin, or some weird setting to shorten URLs by deleting parts of them.
    Cerberus wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, as I probably am, but my understanding was Plasma/LCD screens do not get burn in. It's only projection tv's/monitors.

    It affects any phosphor-based display (which includes plasmas):
    What is plasma burn-in, and how to fight it
  • But LCD's don't have the problem?
  • Yep, doing some research burn-in or image retention occurs in plasmas, but not in LCD type tv's. Some manufacturers (thankfully Panasonic is one of them) have something called pixel orbiting that reduces the likelihood of this occurring.

    Burn-in is different from image retention in that burn-in is permanent, whereas image retention is temporary. Generally image retention will go away after a brief period of 'regular' tv watching occurs.

    The tournament director website (after doing some searching) has information about a screen saver feature in the software that will invert the colours on the display regularly to reduce the chances of negative effects.

    Anyhoo, I've sent an email off to Panasonic Canada to see what they have to say.

    Don't want to hurt my new baby after she's barely a month old!:) (this is the first smiley I've ever used in my entire life! What a rush!)
  • Cerberus wrote: »
    But LCD's don't have the problem?

    That's correct. LCDs are back-lit (basically have one or more light bulbs; newer models use LEDs for light source) that shine through little cells with polarized windows on either side. A voltage is applied across the cell, which aligns molecules into a liquid crystal phase, rotating the polarized light, and effectively dimming (through filtering) the light as it passes through the second polarized window. Changing the voltage gives a reversible phase change of the molecules. Thus, there's no "burn in", since there's no photo-electric emission or degradation of the materials.

    The only problem you can run into is a light bulb burning out (and needing to be replaced; happens many thousands of hours of use), or a cell dying due to a window leaking or corrosion of its electrodes (giving rise to a "dead pixel").

    * Sorry for geeking out; I used to do liquid crystal research in a chemistry lab at Queen's.
  • Of course not.

    You, sir, are my hero . . .
  • iNano78 wrote: »
    That's correct. LCDs are back-lit (basically have one or more light bulbs; newer models use LEDs for light source) that shine through little cells with polarized windows on either side. A voltage is applied across the cell, which aligns molecules into a liquid crystal phase, rotating the polarized light, and effectively dimming (through filtering) the light as it passes through the second polarized window. Changing the voltage gives a reversible phase change of the molecules. Thus, there's no "burn in", since there's no photo-electric emission or degradation of the materials.
    .


    Not sure wtf you just said...but I am gonna steal it and sound smart to someone dumb like me.
  • So, this sucks, but here's the response I got back from Panasonic support:

    Thank you for your e-mail. Please be advised that what you are describing
    below is not a typical consumer application. Generally our Viera TVs are
    used by consumers for a variety of video content, ie: gaming, movies, sports,
    regular TV programming, etc. What you have noted below is more of an
    industrial application which would typically warrant the use of an Industrial
    Display Monitor designed to handle this type of continuous display.
    Panasonic does market Industrial Displays, and they are featured on our web
    site at the following URL:

    Panasonic Canada - Plasma Displays

    Yes, this model does have Pixel Orbitor, however please note again that our
    Viera TV line is not designed to handle the application you have noted below.

    Sincerely,
    Panasonic Canada Inc.
    Viera Support Team

    So, I'm sure they are simply covering their collective asses for the purposes of warranty coverage, but why even bother having a built in pc interface on the tv if you're not supposed to run applications on the damn thing. Ah well, I'm gonna give it a try and see what happens!
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