got back from niagara, got essays to write so said i'd only play one tourney: sattied into stars $200k gtd, 3pm start.........fell asleep at 12, woke up at 5 with 1300 chips at 125/250.........accidentally misclicked a 4x utg call on my first hand in small blind with Q4dd....shoved flop.........ran into set........he wouldve called with anything anyways and i wouldve busted...............i think u understand this post = FML
We cant pair the board 1 time for 5 figures in equity?
Full Tilt Poker Game #16236030238: $33,000 Guarantee (1r+1a) (117981143), Table 26 - 1700/3400 Ante 400 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:21:18 ET - 2009/11/23
Seat 2: endlessj83 (193,636)
Seat 4: Kamdini (341,581)
Seat 5: da_professional (89,788)
Seat 6: Wetts1012 (178,614)
endlessj83 antes 400
Kamdini antes 400
da_professional antes 400
Wetts1012 antes 400
da_professional posts the small blind of 1,700
Wetts1012 posts the big blind of 3,400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wetts1012 [Ac As]
endlessj83 raises to 7,700
Kamdini folds
da_professional has 15 seconds left to act
da_professional folds
Wetts1012 calls 4,300
*** FLOP *** [Ah Qs 3c]
Wetts1012 checks
endlessj83 bets 12,550
Wetts1012 has 15 seconds left to act
Wetts1012 calls 12,550
*** TURN *** [Ah Qs 3c] [Ts]
Wetts1012 checks
endlessj83 has 15 seconds left to act
endlessj83 bets 19,895
Wetts1012 has 15 seconds left to act
Wetts1012 raises to 41,595
endlessj83 has 15 seconds left to act
endlessj83 calls 21,700
*** RIVER *** [Ah Qs 3c Ts] [6d]
Wetts1012 has 15 seconds left to act
Wetts1012 bets 116,369, and is all in
endlessj83 calls 116,369
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Wetts1012 shows [Ac As] three of a kind, Aces
endlessj83 shows [Kh Jc] a straight, Ace high
endlessj83 wins the pot (359,728) with a straight, Ace high
Wetts1012 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 359,728 | Rake 0
Board: [Ah Qs 3c Ts 6d]
Seat 2: endlessj83 showed [Kh Jc] and won (359,728) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 4: Kamdini (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: da_professional (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Wetts1012 (big blind) showed [Ac As] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
did not play, folks said let's go to rama, so i said ok after they said they were giving me money to play with:), sorry guys did not see what games were there in poker room, there was a small crowd outside the room so i am assuming there was a good wait, the dad gave me 20 to try video poker as he has done well on those the last few weeks.
he won 250 and i hit shit, same with slots i could not hit anything, the mom won 850.
Oh ya i had a small run in with security, i checked my coat and was 2 steps away from the casino THEN the security guy starts yelling sir, sir, then i yelled back TOO LATE,lol (Kristy would be so proud) so i went back did the id thing and all was well.
ooops sorry to derail there wetts, ya that hand sucked.:)
Villain was clearly willing to spew chips with K10. Was he on tilt or just an awful player?
It was KJ, and he turned the Nuts. EndlessJ is actually a strong villain, and ended up shipping the 22K for first. This hand was with 8 left (6max). Top 3 were all 5 figs so it was a pretty expensive turn card imo. I have no issues with how he played the hand.
He made a standard Cbet and binked his card. I also think I played the hand pretty well. I just happened to have the nut instead of the nut nut.
Am I the only one here who thinks you should raise 75% of the time to 18K with AA preflop and 50% of the time raise 60% pot with top set on a rainbow slightly connected board? How are you perceived by the other players? I raise with crap so I need to raise with my good hands to balance my range.
Am I the only one here who thinks you should raise 75% of the time to 18K with AA preflop and 50% of the time raise 60% pot with top set on a rainbow slightly connected board? How are you perceived by the other players? I raise with crap so I need to raise with my good hands to balance my range.
100% agree if its a range balancer. I am tighty whitey at this table. I think I was like 15/13 or something redic like that for 6max.
The issue was that it was prob the most difficult final 12 (da_pro, mossified, ryanghall (props for the 9K btw), endless, bigdog, blizair, Jordan Morgan, STCATH) in terms of aggroness. So I kind of let them bet for me from about 40 down.
BTW I absolutely think endless fires on multiple streets even if he misses there.
100% agree if its a range balancer. I am tighty whitey at this table. I think I was like 15/13 or something redic like that for 6max.
The issue was that it was prob the most difficult final 12 (da_pro, mossified, ryanghall (props for the 9K btw), endless, bigdog, blizair, Jordan Morgan, STCATH) in terms of aggroness. So I kind of let them bet for me from about 40 down.
BTW I absolutely think endless fires on multiple streets even if he misses there.
That's a really tough final 12!!!
I'm not sure that playing 15/13 will be (most) profitable against a lineup like that. I usually play much weaker fields, but I would think they would just not give you action without hands that beat you in big pots if you're playing 15/13.
What's your 3 bet range vs under the gun raisers? 0?
If you're 15/13 then you're 3 bet range vs UTG would be ... I'm guessing pretty small?
I'm not sure that playing 15/13 will be (most) profitable against a lineup like that. I usually play much weaker fields, but I would think they would just not give you action without hands that beat you in big pots if you're playing 15/13.
Depends I guess. I would basically 3bet ship whenever I was good which is more profitable I think than opening alot of pots marginally and have to fold to the 3bets (which Im pretty sure was a good % of the time).
+ I was super in awe of how these guys play, so I just sit back and enjoy the fireworks.
Depends I guess. I would basically 3bet ship whenever I was good which is more profitable I think than opening alot of pots marginally and have to fold to the 3bets (which Im pretty sure was a good % of the time).
+ I was super in awe of how these guys play, so I just sit back and enjoy the fireworks.
// Note I'm not an expert on this so take what I say with a grain of salt.
Assuming an 180K stack with the blinds/ante above...(1700/3400/400)
1.
3 bet shipping when people are opening to 7700 looks awkward...
2.
If you're pretty sure you're good and ....
If you're getting 3 bet light then try 4 bet small, not folding.
For example, you raise to 7700, you get 3 bet to 22000,
try small 4 betting to 50K.
LOL. No 3bet, not 3 bet overshoving. My bad. I would basically look for good spots to exploit my image:
Full Tilt Poker Game #16235994637: $33,000 Guarantee (1r+1a) (117981143), Table 26 - 1700/3400 Ante 400 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:18:52 ET - 2009/11/23
Seat 2: endlessj83 (182,636)
Seat 4: Kamdini (356,081)
Seat 5: da_professional (106,888)
Seat 6: Wetts1012 (158,014)
endlessj83 antes 400
Kamdini antes 400
da_professional antes 400
Wetts1012 antes 400
da_professional posts the small blind of 1,700
Wetts1012 posts the big blind of 3,400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wetts1012 [3d Ac]
endlessj83 folds
Kamdini raises to 7,800
da_professional has 15 seconds left to act
da_professional calls 6,100
Wetts1012 has 15 seconds left to act
Wetts1012 raises to 26,555
Kamdini folds
da_professional folds
Uncalled bet of 18,755 returned to Wetts1012
Wetts1012 mucks
Wetts1012 wins the pot (25,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 25,000 | Rake 0
Seat 2: endlessj83 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Kamdini (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: da_professional (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Wetts1012 (big blind) collected (25,000), mucked
I am not overly comfortable 4betting (relatively) light. It is a part of my game I am not too comfortable with.
That said, I think Ive found a fairly successful TAG niche. I dont think I would play a LAG style very well, I'll leave that to you and the 5/5ers.
Wetts, I definitely wouldn't feel bad about calling w/ top set on the flop; that's totally fine (although so is raising). I certainly would not call preflop OOP though, especially against a great player like endlessJ. You have to 3bet that.
The 2nd AA hand u had where u reraised and they both folded I would have reraised a bit smaller, but meh w/e. Congrats on getting deep.
I got KK < A7'ed aipf for like a billion chips 3 handed
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j/k...thinking about sat. to one of the big ones..maybe a little late to be starting that thought process..sng city today I guess..
Maybe I should have played the Fallsview crapshoot satellites instead.
We cant pair the board 1 time for 5 figures in equity?
Full Tilt Poker Game #16236030238: $33,000 Guarantee (1r+1a) (117981143), Table 26 - 1700/3400 Ante 400 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:21:18 ET - 2009/11/23
Seat 2: endlessj83 (193,636)
Seat 4: Kamdini (341,581)
Seat 5: da_professional (89,788)
Seat 6: Wetts1012 (178,614)
endlessj83 antes 400
Kamdini antes 400
da_professional antes 400
Wetts1012 antes 400
da_professional posts the small blind of 1,700
Wetts1012 posts the big blind of 3,400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wetts1012 [Ac As]
endlessj83 raises to 7,700
Kamdini folds
da_professional has 15 seconds left to act
da_professional folds
Wetts1012 calls 4,300
*** FLOP *** [Ah Qs 3c]
Wetts1012 checks
endlessj83 bets 12,550
Wetts1012 has 15 seconds left to act
Wetts1012 calls 12,550
*** TURN *** [Ah Qs 3c] [Ts]
Wetts1012 checks
endlessj83 has 15 seconds left to act
endlessj83 bets 19,895
Wetts1012 has 15 seconds left to act
Wetts1012 raises to 41,595
endlessj83 has 15 seconds left to act
endlessj83 calls 21,700
*** RIVER *** [Ah Qs 3c Ts] [6d]
Wetts1012 has 15 seconds left to act
Wetts1012 bets 116,369, and is all in
endlessj83 calls 116,369
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Wetts1012 shows [Ac As] three of a kind, Aces
endlessj83 shows [Kh Jc] a straight, Ace high
endlessj83 wins the pot (359,728) with a straight, Ace high
Wetts1012 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 359,728 | Rake 0
Board: [Ah Qs 3c Ts 6d]
Seat 2: endlessj83 showed [Kh Jc] and won (359,728) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 4: Kamdini (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: da_professional (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Wetts1012 (big blind) showed [Ac As] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
he won 250 and i hit shit, same with slots i could not hit anything, the mom won 850.
Oh ya i had a small run in with security, i checked my coat and was 2 steps away from the casino THEN the security guy starts yelling sir, sir, then i yelled back TOO LATE,lol (Kristy would be so proud) so i went back did the id thing and all was well.
ooops sorry to derail there wetts, ya that hand sucked.:)
Won't get any pity from me.
If there was ever a board to slowplay topset on, this is it.
+1.
you need to examine your game
+2.
Villain was clearly willing to spew chips with K10. Was he on tilt or just an awful player?
It was KJ, and he turned the Nuts. EndlessJ is actually a strong villain, and ended up shipping the 22K for first. This hand was with 8 left (6max). Top 3 were all 5 figs so it was a pretty expensive turn card imo. I have no issues with how he played the hand.
He made a standard Cbet and binked his card. I also think I played the hand pretty well. I just happened to have the nut instead of the nut nut.
100% agree if its a range balancer. I am tighty whitey at this table. I think I was like 15/13 or something redic like that for 6max.
The issue was that it was prob the most difficult final 12 (da_pro, mossified, ryanghall (props for the 9K btw), endless, bigdog, blizair, Jordan Morgan, STCATH) in terms of aggroness. So I kind of let them bet for me from about 40 down.
BTW I absolutely think endless fires on multiple streets even if he misses there.
That's a really tough final 12!!!
I'm not sure that playing 15/13 will be (most) profitable against a lineup like that. I usually play much weaker fields, but I would think they would just not give you action without hands that beat you in big pots if you're playing 15/13.
What's your 3 bet range vs under the gun raisers? 0?
If you're 15/13 then you're 3 bet range vs UTG would be ... I'm guessing pretty small?
Depends I guess. I would basically 3bet ship whenever I was good which is more profitable I think than opening alot of pots marginally and have to fold to the 3bets (which Im pretty sure was a good % of the time).
+ I was super in awe of how these guys play, so I just sit back and enjoy the fireworks.
// Note I'm not an expert on this so take what I say with a grain of salt.
Assuming an 180K stack with the blinds/ante above...(1700/3400/400)
1.
3 bet shipping when people are opening to 7700 looks awkward...
2.
If you're pretty sure you're good and ....
If you're getting 3 bet light then try 4 bet small, not folding.
For example, you raise to 7700, you get 3 bet to 22000,
try small 4 betting to 50K.
Full Tilt Poker Game #16235994637: $33,000 Guarantee (1r+1a) (117981143), Table 26 - 1700/3400 Ante 400 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:18:52 ET - 2009/11/23
Seat 2: endlessj83 (182,636)
Seat 4: Kamdini (356,081)
Seat 5: da_professional (106,888)
Seat 6: Wetts1012 (158,014)
endlessj83 antes 400
Kamdini antes 400
da_professional antes 400
Wetts1012 antes 400
da_professional posts the small blind of 1,700
Wetts1012 posts the big blind of 3,400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wetts1012 [3d Ac]
endlessj83 folds
Kamdini raises to 7,800
da_professional has 15 seconds left to act
da_professional calls 6,100
Wetts1012 has 15 seconds left to act
Wetts1012 raises to 26,555
Kamdini folds
da_professional folds
Uncalled bet of 18,755 returned to Wetts1012
Wetts1012 mucks
Wetts1012 wins the pot (25,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 25,000 | Rake 0
Seat 2: endlessj83 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Kamdini (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: da_professional (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Wetts1012 (big blind) collected (25,000), mucked
I am not overly comfortable 4betting (relatively) light. It is a part of my game I am not too comfortable with.
That said, I think Ive found a fairly successful TAG niche. I dont think I would play a LAG style very well, I'll leave that to you and the 5/5ers.
The 2nd AA hand u had where u reraised and they both folded I would have reraised a bit smaller, but meh w/e. Congrats on getting deep.
I got KK < A7'ed aipf for like a billion chips 3 handed
+1
zomg:)
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oh crap, i gave you my curse
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