From good, to bad, to amazing, to OUCH!, all in one hand.

Irah

Just thought I would share an interesting hand that occured in the $11 rebuy 20K on Stars tonight.

I felt I had played decent thus far in the tourney, and was trying to gather some chips to make a push into the money.

Unfortunately I did not have a great read on my opponents, seeing as I just moved tables, but I am not sure if it would have helped.

I am *Islander*99.

PokerStars Game #878513275: Tournament #3416988, Hold'em No Limit - Level XI
(600/1200) - 2004/11/21 - 01:00:43 (ET)

Table '3416988 39' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: g8trfan69 (84745 in chips)
Seat 2: chiprack (16950 in chips)
Seat 3: Droptrak (14955 in chips)
Seat 4: razrbak77 (20135 in chips)
Seat 5: *Islander*99 (21050 in chips)
Seat 6: JoAnne (29020 in chips)
Seat 7: Tackman (20681 in chips)
Seat 8: truman36 (340 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: MADCABBIE (38152 in chips)

g8trfan69: posts the ante 75
chiprack: posts the ante 75
Droptrak: posts the ante 75
razrbak77: posts the ante 75
*Islander*99: posts the ante 75
JoAnne: posts the ante 75
Tackman: posts the ante 75
truman36: posts the ante 75
MADCABBIE: posts the ante 75
truman36: posts small blind 265 and is all-in
MADCABBIE: posts big blind 1200

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to *Islander*99 [Qh Qs]

g8trfan69: folds
chiprack: folds
Droptrak: folds
razrbak77: folds
*Islander*99: raises 1200 to 2400
JoAnne: folds
Tackman: folds
truman36: folds
MADCABBIE: calls 1200

*** FLOP *** [7h Jh 5h]
MADCABBIE: bets 3600
*Islander*99: raises 14975 to 18575 and is all-in
MADCABBIE: calls 14975
thecrazyjock [observer] said, "got chit loads and like real thing better"
lilcutie21 [observer] said, "jock r u talkin to me"
*** TURN *** [7h Jh 5h] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [7h Jh 5h Qd] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MADCABBIE: shows [Jd Js] (four of a kind, Jacks)
*Islander*99: shows [Qh Qs] (a full house, Queens full of Jacks)
MADCABBIE collected 41420 from side pot
chunk [observer] said, "hiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
MADCABBIE said, "get in there"
*Islander*99 said, "wow"
MADCABBIE collected 1470 from main pot
g8trfan69 said, "damn"

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 42890 Main pot 1470. Side pot 41420. | Rake 0
Board [7h Jh 5h Qd Jc]
Seat 1: g8trfan69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: chiprack folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Droptrak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: razrbak77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: *Islander*99 showed [Qh Qs] and lost with a full house, Queens full of
Jacks
Seat 6: JoAnne folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Tackman (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: truman36 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: MADCABBIE (big blind) showed [Jd Js] and won (42890) with four of a

Monteroy

Not sure how you can get a read that your QQ is not good there. Funny hand for sure, I can't remember too many two outer turn escapes being followed up by a one outer river counter escape. I imagine odds of that are a tad slim

I played in it tonight as well, and my final hand was a bit disappointing because I did have a good read on a weak opponent who would make the play I expected (as he had earlier at the table), though at times what you hope for doesn't always work out .

What I liked best about my play here (ignoring the outcome) was that it is a play I would never do with A J normally, but this person just totally loved ace low rag hands for some reason and always raised 1 unit with them so I took a chance, so while I lost I was satisfied with how I played the hand in this specific case.

Table '3416988 29' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ANICCA (5595 in chips)
Seat 2: tweets2 (5960 in chips)
Seat 3: fishpotato (4030 in chips)
Seat 4: Monteroy (12320 in chips)
Seat 5: Phoenix1128 (2775 in chips)
Seat 6: SPONGETODD (21485 in chips)
Seat 7: L337Krew03 (23183 in chips)
Seat 8: ugaistheteam (18835 in chips)
Seat 9: Frogman168 (17040 in chips) is sitting out
ANICCA: posts the ante 25
tweets2: posts the ante 25
fishpotato: posts the ante 25
Monteroy: posts the ante 25
Phoenix1128: posts the ante 25
SPONGETODD: posts the ante 25
L337Krew03: posts the ante 25
ugaistheteam: posts the ante 25
Frogman168: posts the ante 25
Monteroy: posts small blind 200
Phoenix1128: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [Js Ac]
SPONGETODD: folds
L337Krew03: folds
ugaistheteam: raises 400 to 800
Frogman168: folds
ANICCA: folds
tweets2: folds
fishpotato: folds
Monteroy: raises 11495 to 12295 and is all-in
Phoenix1128: folds
ugaistheteam: calls 11495
*** FLOP *** [4d 2s 2h]
*** TURN *** [4d 2s 2h] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [4d 2s 2h 6h] [8s]
Monteroy said, "yup"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Monteroy: shows [Js Ac] (a pair of Deuces)
ugaistheteam: shows [As 8h] (two pair, Eights and Deuces)
Frogman168 has returned
ugaistheteam collected 25215 from pot


The rebuy tournaments at stars are an interesting one, especially on the weekends where you will see all sorts of creative plays. Tonight I watched a bet /raise/reraise/reraise all in/call sequence of betting post flop between two people with identical inside straight draws.

Two days ago I finally made a final table (5th place finish) and the funny thing is I never had a AA KK QQ or even JJ hand until the final table, and was well below average chips pretty much the whole way which is why I enjoy the tournaments as you never quite know what to expect.

Good luck in future ones. I promise not to one out you on the river if we share a table in a future one .

SocietyRed

ouch, that was a nasty outcome. I was in a tourny on Royal vegas poker the other night. I had about 19k in chips, guy has about 10k. Blinds were I think 300/600. I get dealt AA. I bet 1800 preflop, everyone folds except buddy. he raised it to half his stack so I reraise and put him all in. he calls and flips over a AK. I'm happy . flop comes rag rag K. turn rags river (you guessed it) K. My A's got cracked and now I have about 9k in chips and drop to below average. Funny thing is after I left the tourny in 24th spot earning a measly $5 bucks I check the leader board and buddy was gone out in 25th. He gave up all my chips and finished higher then me. I thought I played that hand right. I got massively outdrawn. I think I was about 90% fav to win that hand. oh well


Red

stpboy

Monteroy wrote:

Table '3416988 29' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ANICCA (5595 in chips)
Seat 2: tweets2 (5960 in chips)
Seat 3: fishpotato (4030 in chips)
Seat 4: Monteroy (12320 in chips)
Seat 5: Phoenix1128 (2775 in chips)
Seat 6: SPONGETODD (21485 in chips)
Seat 7: L337Krew03 (23183 in chips)
Seat 8: ugaistheteam (18835 in chips)
Seat 9: Frogman168 (17040 in chips) is sitting out
ANICCA: posts the ante 25
tweets2: posts the ante 25
fishpotato: posts the ante 25
Monteroy: posts the ante 25
Phoenix1128: posts the ante 25
SPONGETODD: posts the ante 25
L337Krew03: posts the ante 25
ugaistheteam: posts the ante 25
Frogman168: posts the ante 25
Monteroy: posts small blind 200
Phoenix1128: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [Js Ac]
SPONGETODD: folds
L337Krew03: folds
ugaistheteam: raises 400 to 800
Frogman168: folds
ANICCA: folds
tweets2: folds
fishpotato: folds
Monteroy: raises 11495 to 12295 and is all-in
Phoenix1128: folds
ugaistheteam: calls 11495
*** FLOP *** [4d 2s 2h]
*** TURN *** [4d 2s 2h] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [4d 2s 2h 6h] [8s]
Monteroy said, "yup"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Monteroy: shows [Js Ac] (a pair of Deuces)
ugaistheteam: shows [As 8h] (two pair, Eights and Deuces)
Frogman168 has returned
ugaistheteam collected 25215 from pot

Interesting note: ugaistheteam qualified for the 2005 WSOP through absolute poker, let's hope for his sake he doesn't make moves like this in the main event.

stp

Monteroy

Well, one other aspect of the 10 dollar rebuy tournaments is that for some good higher stakes players it is a place to just go wild and play crazy and strange and hope to get lucky. There was another thread about this a few weeks ago (mainly during the rebuy periods). I remember having Exclusive at my table in one (a person I know in real life who is a great player). He played like a maniac before and after the rebuy period in a way that makes this A 8 call look fantastic. A few at the table thought Exclusive was the worst player ever, yet he was just having goofy fun at a stakes level much lower then he normally plays.

Perhaps that was the case with this other fellow, perhaps not. That's another aspect of the 10 rebuy I like. Still I was happy with the play I made in that specific case whether he was a bad player (as I suspected at the time) or a good player slumming and gambling.


The other post with the AK vs AA hand brought back a recent memory of this following hand:

PokerStars Game #872447238: Tournament #3416920, Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (20000/40000) - 2004/11/19 - 03:38:55 (ET)
Table '3416920 105' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Monteroy (135366 in chips)
Seat 3: baxpress (787155 in chips)
Seat 4: chucktheluck (1037948 in chips)
Seat 5: fabian (268976 in chips)
Seat 6: Fartotronics (839115 in chips)
Seat 7: FcMunky (647199 in chips)
Seat 8: ericvonengle (1062932 in chips)
Seat 9: CougarRed (414809 in chips)
Monteroy: posts the ante 2000
baxpress: posts the ante 2000
chucktheluck: posts the ante 2000
fabian: posts the ante 2000
Fartotronics: posts the ante 2000
FcMunky: posts the ante 2000
ericvonengle: posts the ante 2000
CougarRed: posts the ante 2000
CougarRed: posts small blind 20000
Monteroy: posts big blind 40000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [7d Td]
baxpress: folds
chucktheluck: raises 80000 to 120000
fabian: folds
Fartotronics: folds
FcMunky: folds
ericvonengle: folds
CougarRed: raises 292809 to 412809 and is all-in
Monteroy: folds
chucktheluck: calls 292809
*** FLOP *** [Kc Jc 5c]
*** TURN *** [Kc Jc 5c] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [Kc Jc 5c Kd] [7h]
CougarRed said, "noooo"
FcMunky said, "o man"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CougarRed: shows [Ac Ad] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
chucktheluck: shows [As Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
FcMunky said, "bl"
Monteroy said, "holy cow"
chucktheluck collected 881618 from pot


I felt a bit guilty because I made about 300 dollars on this hand by doing nothing (this was at the final table of the rebuy a couple days ago). I did feel bad that Couger lost like that as he was a solid player and he had been sitting on my right for about 4 hours over 2 tabes (we even got moved together). During that whole time we never saw a flop together.

harthgosh

how do u know exclusive?
who are you?

cheers
HG

Monteroy

Exclusive's name is Noah Boeken and I know him from playing a different card game called Magic the Gathering in the late 90s and early 2000s. Quite a few top Magic players have made the transition to poker including David Williams who finished 2nd in the recent WSOP.

Dave doesn't talk as much about Magic probably because he was banned for a year for cheating (which took place in the World Championship tournament a couple of years ago).

harthgosh

Well, first of all, Exclusive isn't always used by noah.
noah boeken and ryan fuller are 2 of my best friends. I know many of the magic guys...

actually i just got back from visitin noah in amsterdam. He lives at marcel luskes house. Sweet deal. Im gonna post a big email about my trip in a few days. I got SO MUCH damn homework to catch up on now.
I played MTG, but i never was that serious to be on the tour.

Monteroy, noah wants to know who you are now lol... if you have msn messenger let me know and ill add you.

peace
hg

sweetjimmi

lol...the fun of the MTG gang...I too played (addicted) MTG ... never the big tournies but often enough especially online. My PokerStars pic is from MTG...look me up 10 points to the first that can tell me what it is...lol.