Fallsview Floor Ruling
10/20 at Fallsview this Saturday. Peter S. goes all in preflop. The remaining two players are the only competent middle eastern high stakes player (guy is a bit of a douchebag) and some random chinese gambler. Anyway, on the flop middle eastern guy bets like $1000 or something. He has QQ, incidentally, asian dude has KK and cold called the $605 pre or w/e. On the turn he check folds to like $1500 or something like that. Asian dude wins the substantial side pot and throws his cards face down forward a bit because he forgot about the main pot. His cards moved max 3 inches, but he did clearly mean to fold, because he forgot about the main pot.
Dealer says his hand should be mucked. At this point we start to argue and the floor is called.
What is your ruling?
Dealer says his hand should be mucked. At this point we start to argue and the floor is called.
What is your ruling?
Comments
13cards is back? Lemme guess "you're mucked"
Mark
his spirit is with us now.
In honour of this I will keep my smartass reply to the question to myself
I was under the impression that someone can't go pick their cards out of the muck because essentially they could claim any two cards and there would be no way to verify it??
Same here.....in Alberta this would be ruled as a live hand as long as it hasn't hit the muck.....once it hits the muck, it's dead.
I've seen this happen a few times, but not usually for as big a stake......but the amount in the pot should not affect the ruling.
Hey Philli, how many dogs you want? I got the the Mole bringing the cold beers. Pull up a chair, the fun is about to start.
pleasepleasepleaseplease let 13Cards respond in this thread. I will go to church, I will repent my sinning ways, I will even forgo "happy-time" for a month, just let him post in this thread . . .
I agree...I define mucked as unretrievable. As in a reasonable person should be able to identify the two cards face down as the player's hand. Basically they have not joined the pile of cards maybe lying near the chip pile or passed the line but can be easily turned up. Now if they are on the top of the pile of cards I consider that mucked no matter if they were just sent there and a grandmother could pull the correct 2 cards.
There have been many instances at FV where people have gone to pitch their cards or flip them and did it sloppy and they have flipped over gone sideways into a person's stack or almost left the table altogether. Everytime there the hand was still live.
This situation is similar. Basically negligence on the part of the player to pay attention and open their cards properly but it's not enough to rule the hand dead.
And if Kristy would come and show us her tits it would be soooo last February........and yet it would bring a tear to my eye.
Milo, I don't even want to know what "happy time" consists of for you.......as for me there's no way I could go a month.
+1
I think there would be a direct corelation to said difficulty and levels of testosterone.
Too little or too much?
Not me of course.
Yes. There was no river card. Dealer and floor and Peter S. were all in agreement here.
Glad to see they understand the spirit of the rules at Fallsview. All their poker penises grew two inches that night when they took away his hand.