How many buy ins is enough?

Yeah, I know this has been covered in some detail, but I still want feedback.

Have been playing ring NLHE .10/.25 for a little while (literally, little while, about a month). Have been doing reasonably well and increased my bankroll from $100 to just shy of $400. I'm looking at moving up a level, so my thought process kind of went like this...

1) My average buy in at any table is 60% of max allowed.
-.10/.25 max is $25; I buy in for $15.
-.25/.50 max is $50; I'm planning to buy in for $35 (slightly larger comfort zone/bigger double up possible; definitely more about the comfort). This gives me approx. 10 buy ins, if I were to go insane and stack myself and continue playing at that level.

2) My multi tabling has been working well. While it's only been 4 tables, I'm comfortable. I am forced to make quicker decisions but am still able to play a varied hand selection without becoming a bot.

3) I start with only one table at this level, while multi tabling at .10/.25 to help increase profitability and decrease variance from swings/mistakes at new level.

4) It's really not a huge jump in skill (I think) so I will be playing very similar styles of opponents.

I think that covers it. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Comments

  • Your WAY out of our league at .10/.25 let alone .25/.50 :-).

    300x the bb , since your sitting with $25 and could get it all in the middle that makes it the bb. $25 by 300 you need $7500.00 so I don't have to hear "BUT HE MADE THE KING ON THE RIVER AGAIN, i THOUGHT MY ACE HIGH WAS GOOOOD!".

    lol
  • Cerberus wrote: »
    Yeah, I know this has been covered in some detail, but I still want feedback.

    Have been playing ring NLHE .10/.25 for a little while (literally, little while, about a month). Have been doing reasonably well and increased my bankroll from $100 to just shy of $400. I'm looking at moving up a level, so my thought process kind of went like this...

    1) My average buy in at any table is 60% of max allowed.
    -.10/.25 max is $25; I buy in for $15.
    -.25/.50 max is $50; I'm planning to buy in for $35 (slightly larger comfort zone/bigger double up possible; definitely more about the comfort). This gives me approx. 10 buy ins, if I were to go insane and stack myself and continue playing at that level.

    2) My multi tabling has been working well. While it's only been 4 tables, I'm comfortable. I am forced to make quicker decisions but am still able to play a varied hand selection without becoming a bot.

    3) I start with only one table at this level, while multi tabling at .10/.25 to help increase profitability and decrease variance from swings/mistakes at new level.

    4) It's really not a huge jump in skill (I think) so I will be playing very similar styles of opponents.

    I think that covers it. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


    Number of buyin's required depends on Win rate, standard deviation and acceptable risk of ruin.

    1. If you're a losing player, multiply your loss rate times your life expectancy.

    2. If you're a winning player:




    If you can replace your bankroll easily then it's okay to play .25/.50 with only $400.

    BUT


    If you care about going broke — Calculate your win rate and standard deviation. Determine your acceptable risk of ruin.

    If you don't know your win rate a good rule of thumb for cash games is 20 to 100 buyin's. . If losing your bankroll would put you out of action, I'd play .10/.25 until you get to $1000. If your bankroll shrinks to $200, drop down to .05/.10.
  • Yes, you need $7500 to play .10/.25, good advice.
  • Thanks Reef, appreciate the thoughts. I was actually doing it as an experiment to see if I was right about how I was doing, where I was at, etc. Failed experiment lol. I actually tripled my buy in relatively quickly. Unfortunately, got cracked twice set over set. I found I focused too hard on the one table I was playing .25/.50 and ended up losing on the other tables as well.

    I guess I should rephrase it though. It wasn't a failed experiment as far as gaining knowledge about my play and information about my opponents. Just would have been nice to win money while gaining said knowledge.
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