Showdown: Who is required to show their hand first?

RubensRubens
in General Poker Chat
I always found this a little confusing because I could never figure out what the pattern was for showing cards, but after looking at it online I think its pretty straight forward. Here is what I found...
  • If everyone checks (or is all-in) on the final betting round, the player who acted first is the first to show the hand. If there is wagering on the final betting round, the last player to take aggressive action by a bet or raise is the first to show the hand.
  • At the end of the final betting round, if there is more than one remaining poker player, the last person to bet or raise shows his or her cards first. If there was no bet on the final round, the player immediately clockwise from the button shows his or her cards first.
So to make sure I understand this, if someone bets on the river and has two callers, the bettor is required to show his hand first, correct? And the other 2 are not obligated to show unless they have the winning hand.

And if no one bets after the river card is show, the person first to the left of the button must show their cards first.

Do I have that right?

Thanks,
Rubens

Comments

  • ReefAquariumReefAquarium
    If everyone checks (or is all-in) on the final betting round, the player who acted first is the first to show the hand. If there is wagering on the final betting round, the last player to take aggressive action by a bet or raise is the first to show the hand. In order to speed up the game, a player holding a probable winner is encouraged to show the hand without delay. If there are one or more side pots ( because someone is all-in ), players are asked to aid in determining the pot winner by not showing their cards until a pot they are in is being settled.

    Yes you have it right...
  • RubensRubens
    ReefAquarium wrote: »
    If everyone checks (or is all-in) on the final betting round, the player who acted first is the first to show the hand. If there is wagering on the final betting round, the last player to take aggressive action by a bet or raise is the first to show the hand. In order to speed up the game, a player holding a probable winner is encouraged to show the hand without delay. If there are one or more side pots ( because someone is all-in ), players are asked to aid in determining the pot winner by not showing their cards until a pot they are in is being settled.

    Yes you have it right...

    Awesome, thanks for confirming all of this Reef as well as the additional info.
  • PokerKaiPokerKai
    ReefAquarium wrote: »
    If everyone checks (or is all-in) on the final betting round, the player who acted first is the first to show the hand. If there is wagering on the final betting round, the last player to take aggressive action by a bet or raise is the first to show the hand. In order to speed up the game, a player holding a probable winner is encouraged to show the hand without delay. If there are one or more side pots ( because someone is all-in ), players are asked to aid in determining the pot winner by not showing their cards until a pot they are in is being settled.

    Yes you have it right...

    This isnt universal. There are places where its last agressive action...even if the last agressive action was preflop.
  • RubensRubens
    PokerKai wrote: »
    This isnt universal. There are places where its last agressive action...even if the last agressive action was preflop.

    In a standard home game you just pretty much play and I guess there is no real need to discuss the fine details of a rule like this. But I guess in a casino tournament it boils down to reading the rules. Is it considered bad etiquette to depend on the dealer to inform you who needs to show first? I'd imagine it is.
  • WaterLooserWaterLooser
    One of my big pet-peeves in a home game. Just show your f*cking hand! THERE ARE NO TV CAMERAS HERE.
  • PokerKaiPokerKai
    Rubens wrote: »
    In a standard home game you just pretty much play and I guess there is no real need to discuss the fine details of a rule like this. But I guess in a casino tournament it boils down to reading the rules. Is it considered bad etiquette to depend on the dealer to inform you who needs to show first? I'd imagine it is.

    No, not bad etiquette at all. Thats what the dealer is there for.

    If your new to the casino, you should really just turn over your hand whenever your at the showdown. Let the dealer read the cards for you. Your not giving anything away since itll be readily apparent to anybody whos been in a casino before that your fairly new.
  • T8urmoneyT8urmoney
    PokerKai wrote: »
    This isnt universal. There are places where its last agressive action...even if the last agressive action was preflop.


    Agreed......my local just changed rules on this one.
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  • ReefAquariumReefAquarium
    If you have to ask this question, you probably stink at reading your hand.

    If you just turn your cards up then you won't muck a winner.
  • RubensRubens
    PokerKai wrote: »
    No, not bad etiquette at all. Thats what the dealer is there for.

    If your new to the casino, you should really just turn over your hand whenever your at the showdown. Let the dealer read the cards for you. Your not giving anything away since itll be readily apparent to anybody whos been in a casino before that your fairly new.

    That's a good point. Thanks all.
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    WaterLooser wrote: »
    Just show your f*cking hand! THERE ARE NO TV CAMERAS HERE.
    +1. I hate it when the river is done, but nobody is willing to show their hands.
    Player 1: "I have nothing, you're good."
    Player 2: "No, you're good."
    Player 1: "Do you have a pair?"
    Player 2: "Do you?"
    Player 1: "What's your kicker?"
    Player 2: "What's yours?"
    Player 1 finally shows one card.
    Player 2 shows one card that's the same.
    and on and on and on.... :rolleyes:
  • CerberusCerberus
    BlondeFish wrote: »
    +1. I hate it when the river is done, but nobody is willing to show their hands.
    Player 1: "I have nothing, you're good."
    Player 2: "No, you're good."
    Player 1: "Do you have a pair?"
    Player 2: "Do you?"
    Player 1: "What's your kicker?"
    Player 2: "What's yours?"
    Player 1 finally shows one card.
    Player 2 shows one card that's the same.
    and on and on and on.... :rolleyes:

    I have to agree. This kills me. There's a guy at a new game I've just started playing at. He does this every damned hand. I get that he doesn't want people to know what range of hands he plays and all of that stuff, but it's just childish. Thing is, he's also a slow roller when he has people rocked so it gets really pathetic. I do love that it only took two games to figure out he'll literally play any two cards and call for literally any draw.
  • ReefAquariumReefAquarium
    I like to fast roll people.

    It makes a more carefree, happy table image that makes me money.

    For anything but nose bleed stakes, fastrolling will make you money.
  • RubensRubens
    Cerberus wrote: »
    I do love that it only took two games to figure out he'll literally play any two cards and call for literally any draw.

    I love identifying these guys. My eyes start to look like this when i see them
    > ($)($)

    :)
  • Bolton4Bolton4
    I like to fast roll people.
  • MeistroMeistro
    It's last aggressor but just table your damn hand and stop holding up the game! If you have a very weak holding, such as jack high, announce it with pride, optionally shouting ship it.
  • HP_JohnHP_John
    BlondeFish wrote: »
    +1. I hate it when the river is done, but nobody is willing to show their hands.
    Player 1: "I have nothing, you're good."
    Player 2: "No, you're good."
    Player 1: "Do you have a pair?"
    Player 2: "Do you?"
    Player 1: "What's your kicker?"
    Player 2: "What's yours?"
    Player 1 finally shows one card.
    Player 2 shows one card that's the same.
    and on and on and on.... :rolleyes:

    At Fallsview, these kind of guys seem to be so common. It's ridiculous really.
  • kwstevekwsteve
    I never thought this was so complicated. The caller shows last. If you say "I call" the other guy shows first. If there is no betting then the first person who checked in the regular order of action shows first.
  • SevenHighSevenHigh
    Rubens wrote: »
    I love identifying these guys. My eyes start to look like this when i see them
    > ($)($)

    :)

    agreed ($)($)!!!

    Unless the lucky bastard is rollin' out those draws that night, then he'll bankrupt you - and prob trash talk you too...
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