Define "The Nuts" to settle a bet.
Was playing poker with friends when a heated discussion came up about the term "The Nuts". A friend of mine had J-8. She turned a straight with 7-9-10-J. I folded my K-10 as she went all in and didn't want to go for the gut-shot. She, and everyone else at the table said she had the nuts. I argued, that she couldn't have the nuts, as a queen would have given me a higher straight. You can't have the nuts if there is a hand out there that can beat you, correct?
My interpretation of the nuts, is having a hand that cannot be beat no matter what comes out.
Their interpretation is having the best possible hand "at the time". IE, pocket aces is the nuts, because it is the best possible hand at the time.
I got $20 on this, please tell me I'm right.
My interpretation of the nuts, is having a hand that cannot be beat no matter what comes out.
Their interpretation is having the best possible hand "at the time". IE, pocket aces is the nuts, because it is the best possible hand at the time.
I got $20 on this, please tell me I'm right.
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edit: KQ is teh nuts in this spot. It still can be beaten on the river by a boat or a straight to the A
The Nuts -- What Does The Nuts Mean in Poker -- Nuts Definition
So in most cases you cannot know what the nuts is until the river comes out, unless you flop a nut straight, or other dominant hand like that.
No, straight can be beaten. In some cases you can know on the turn, but I don't think you'd ever know on the flop.
With a straight on the flop, if your opponent hits a set he can turn his set into a full house on the turn or river which now beats your straight.
eg.
You have AQdd
On a board of Jd Td Ks
You have the nuts with a draw to more nuts.
Caddie wins. Strange, but I wanted him to hear/see it at least once this week.
The "Nuts" is the best possible hand at a given point.
AA is the "Nuts" preflop, unless your name is Pokerjah . . .
Caddie's example is correct too, as the best possible hand on that flop is a straight.
Staying with Caddie's example, if the Turn brings a Kc, you no longer have the "Nuts", as quad Kings would be the "Nuts".
However, a Kd on the River puts you back on the "Nuts" with the Royal Flush.
And if someone "upper decks" your royal flush, go ahead and shoot them.
The stones...which is the river version of the nuts...
You may have the nuts on the flop...but the stones on the river....LOL
Either way...the nut hand is only when 5 cards have been placed on the board. The idea behind holding the "nuts" is that no one currently in the hand has a hand holding that could beat you.
IE AK flop AAK vs AQ.....
AK has flopped the nuts
KH6H
Flop comes 3H7H10H
VS AH6C
K6 has flopped a flush but doesn't have the nuts yet....
The nuts are the best possible hand at that point in time.
The immortal nuts are the best possible hand with no redraws against it.
we have a winner
Leave it to the member (sorry) with the biggest balls, to know the most about the "nuts."
^^This is how I use the term nuts as well. Frequently it is qualified by 'the nuts on this board' or 'currently has the nuts' and it is understood that it can change later in the hand. I have heard the term used this way by TV commentators and other forums.
To add more confusion, say the above board ran off Jd Td Ks 2d Kh. The nuts is quads, but you still have the nut flush, which of course beats all other flushes. I have also seen AK referred to as the "nut no-pair" on a board of say 2793J, meaning it beats all other Ace high hands.
This thread is nuts . . . lol
Wow. I actually said this in the "piss me off" thread a couple of days ago.
You do not have the nut flush. You have an ace high flush.
If I had KQ on a KQ765 board would I have the nut two pair?
Yes, you have the nut two pair.
I'm not saying I say this, but I have heard/seen it used frequently by poker writers and professionals in videos.
I'm also not saying you have to like it or use it yourself; but getting upset over it seems excessive
My favourite winning poker hand is the nut nothing. E.g. KQ on AT974 rainbow.
/g2
I guess I've just seen too many people thinking they actually have the nuts with the ace flush.
AKA - Nut no pair
AKA - Missed pair draw
This ... although I have always opted for "stone cold nuts" when there are no redraws.
The flop was 7/9/J, rainbow. You held K/10, your opponent held 8/10, which WAS "the nuts", she went all-in after the flop, you folded.
Your argument was that it was not the nuts because you could have hit a Q and made a better straight. I argued that "the nuts" was the best hand at a given time.
Actually I see this as the original hand in the first post?
In which case unarguably KQ is the "nut" straight on that board. Even 8Q is a better straight than she had. She just had a straight, no nuts involved.