casino owned players

The_AwesomeThe_Awesome
in General Poker Chat
I was playing at a small poker room in Vegas and ran into a situation that was odd. A player seemed to be under control of the dealers. He was also the guy who straddled every hand and kept begging everyone else too. So do these casinos compensate people to play there and inflate the pots?

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  • HobbesHobbes
    Some may employ prop palyers.
    They play with their own money usually and get to keep a portion of the rake they generate..hence the pot building
  • Wetts1012Wetts1012
    I propped for a club in Mississauga for about 6 months before it was "closed".

    I played my own money but was paid an hourly rate.

    Not sure how casinos work, I would guess relatively the same.
  • moosemoose
    They use props to keep a table open or start a new table rather than shut it down and earn no rake.
  • GrahamGraham
    Wetts1012 wrote: »
    I propped for a club in Mississauga for about 6 months before it was "closed".

    I played my own money but was paid an hourly rate.

    Not sure how casinos work, I would guess relatively the same.

    As a live prop would you have to leave if the table was almost full? I believe that is what online props have to do.
  • Wetts1012Wetts1012
    Graham wrote: »
    As a live prop would you have to leave if the table was almost full? I believe that is what online props have to do.

    If there was a wait list, yes. I would open the new table.
  • The_AwesomeThe_Awesome
    So I guess this is a well known thing then. I was just a bit surprised when it clicked. I called him out on it right at the table then left lol.
  • westside8westside8
    Yep...it's less common now but it does exist.
  • ReefAquariumReefAquarium
    Sounds like a great job!

    Tell us more about it?

    I guess you have to get good playing shorthanded?
  • Universal TranslatorUniversal Translator
    Wetts1012 wrote: »
    I propped for a club in Mississauga for about 6 months before it was "closed".

    I played my own money but was paid an hourly rate.

    Not sure how casinos work, I would guess relatively the same.

    Translation:
    "Props" are generally "losing" players!

    Universal Translator
  • Wetts1012Wetts1012
    Universal Translator wrote: »
    Translation:
    "Props" are generally "losing" players!

    Universal Translator

    WP Sir!
  • Universal TranslatorUniversal Translator
    Wetts1012 wrote: »
    WP Sir!

    Translation:
    I knew when I typed that reply, someone would be a smart-ass!

    Universal Translator
  • ReefAquariumReefAquarium
    Universal Translator wrote: »
    Translation:
    "Props" are generally "losing" players!

    Universal Translator

    I don't see how they could sustain losing.
  • moosemoose
    ReefAquarium wrote: »
    Sounds like a great job!

    Tell us more about it?

    I guess you have to get good playing shorthanded?

    Most of the props I saw, sat around all day reading magazines then for an orbit and a half or a couple orbits they would jump in a table that was in danger of collapsing. As soon as it got back up to 7 handed or so they would immediately leave. Real steady source of income.
  • Wetts1012Wetts1012
    moose wrote: »
    Most of the props I saw, sat around all day reading magazines then for an orbit and a half or a couple orbits they would jump in a table that was in danger of collapsing. As soon as it got back up to 7 handed or so they would immediately leave. Real steady source of income.

    This.

    At clubs, they basically pay regulars insignificant monies to not leave before a certain time. Not bad if you werent planning on leaving anyway.
  • BlondeFishBlondeFish
    It's not a well-known thing, and there can be abuse if you don't know who and what the props are allowed to do. In Nevada, you have the right to know if there are props in the game, and I asked at Binion's when it was a short-handed game.

    Online, many players were hired by PokerStars and other sites to be props.
    The_Awesome wrote: »
    So I guess this is a well known thing then. I was just a bit surprised when it clicked. I called him out on it right at the table then left lol.
  • OPRCOPRC
    So can you ask this at ANY casino? and if you can...do they HAVE to tell you if there is? is this just a vegas type thing, or does Rama and Niagara do this as well?
    I'm just wondering cause i have played at Rama quite a few times on short handed table (5-7) players and never thought about that before or noticed it.
  • pokrgodpokrgod
    OPRC wrote: »
    So can you ask this at ANY casino? and if you can...do they HAVE to tell you if there is? is this just a vegas type thing, or does Rama and Niagara do this as well?
    I'm just wondering cause i have played at Rama quite a few times on short handed table (5-7) players and never thought about that before or noticed it.

    As an ex-dealer at Casino Niagara, I've never been aware of having any prop players. November 07 was when I left there. Not sure if they're doing it now though.
  • FalkyBonesFalkyBones
    The_Awesome wrote: »
    I was playing at a small poker room in Vegas and ran into a situation

    Sounds like Treasure Island...
    Yes ? ? ?
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