Fallsview 5/10 NL report
Played this game last night. Wanted to play 10/20 NL but I don't think anyone budged from the table the whole time I was there... was on waitlist for 5 1/2 hours and never got called to the 10/20. I don't go and play live much but wanted to post about what I saw. What a pile of jerks. I would say 8 of the 10 people on the table knew each other at any given time. They were softplaying hands left and right. Do they not know how -EV this is? They were berating dealers (in one case deserved) but were just so rude. They were trying to get away with showing one card at showdown (and in one case it worked and the dealer didn't know why this was a bad thing, and wasn't listening to any arguments... probably because she was sick of the what must be daily abuse from these idiots). They were pretty much all 55+ and old. I felt like I was at the mall food court at 11am. Only one dealer was consistently putting them in their place... a middle aged blondish lady.. might have been a Tracy? The rest just seemed to put up with their crap. A reraise on that table would have been an turbo muck of KK, heh. Still a good game to play but in a different way, obviously (although I'm sure most of the time these guys probably eek out a tiny profit). I mean, sure, have a hobby to keep yourself busy when you retire but this was just ridiculous. Just thought I'd give everyone the heads up!
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The majority of them are net losers - just like your PokerStars Steps opponents.
Well the point is when the table is that tight play loose and earn...I can't believe they are still restricting buy-ins to 100bb at mid limits
My guess it that its provincial regulations more than anything.
But yeah, I've only played 5/5, and that was approx 1.5 years ago now when I went about 2-3 times weekly when it was the first time FV got the WPT to grind out 5/5 and satellites, and it was basically a group of guys after the new guy's money. It alsohappened in a satellite where a guy clearly stated "I got that guy out, now you have a better shot to stay in this thing" (para-phrase, I do not remember exactly the wording referring to him betting me out of the pot on the flop).
Doesn't sound like they deserve tips 1/2 the time.
oops i guess i answered my own question.
Problem is, when people take this approach then it's unlikely any of the dealers will ever care about their job. I completely agree with you, and dealers won't like to hear this, but the complete lack of care for their job at not only Fallsview, but other casinos, is really disappointing. Many go through the motions, not trying to make play fast, not caring to know all of the rules intricately, not being forceful... and it's really kind of sad. If I put that little effort into my job, I'd have trouble sleeping at night.
Having said that, they're still worth $1/hand at a game where we're playing for thousands. Like, come on
I was being sarcastic, I always tip.
Poker rooms need to let dealers keep their own tips or it will never change. Why should some 15hand/hour dealer who can't control a table bring in the same wage as a 35 hand/hour dealer keeping the game running smoothly. RIdonkalus.
Then I was also be-rated because I mucked my JJ on a board of AA10 after once again I was re-raised preflop and then shoved on after I put out a bet on that flop.
It stopped once I started name dropping (some online pros I know and other very well known live players) and told the "regular" that he should watch who he is talking to, after I stacked him when I bet out my set into a rainbow flop and he decided to make a move....
Then the game was fun again....
But overall I feel most days when I play there (Fri/Sat) its me against 5-6 others all colluding together (not necessarily straight out colluding but same as above reference, soft playing, chatting about hands....etc)
At the end of the day I don't really care because I am +EV at FV by like a million % because for everyone I 3 bet with AA I get at least 1 no believer who will stack off to me with top pair on the flop.
However, it is quite intimidating for "newer" players that may not be used to playing in such a tainted environment.
Where do most of the tips in the tip pool come from?
I imagine that poker pays pretty good compared to the big wheel?