Getting all your money in on the flop
Just wondering if you would play these hands any differently when you hit a good flop. I have been losing a lot of big hands lately on the flop when I think I am good and the other player catches up by the river. I know statistically I am ahead on the flop, but, should some of these hands be played a little more conservatively down to the river to see what other cards might materialize by the river (and maybe change the dynamics of the hand). Is it better to maybe make 1/2 to pot size bets on the flop and turn to make the villian pay to see another card, while not committing all your chips on the flop?
1) 99, flop comes 10109; you get all you chips in the middle on the flop and the other player has A10; river brings an ace.
2) 46s, flop comes 357; all chips in the middle again vs 55; villian hits quads on the river; with 7 outs on the turn or 10 on the river to hit the boat (or quads), should this be played a little slower on the flop?
3) KJh, flop comes 239h; all chips in the middle and another heart comes on the river giving this other player an ace high flush (AhAd).
1) 99, flop comes 10109; you get all you chips in the middle on the flop and the other player has A10; river brings an ace.
2) 46s, flop comes 357; all chips in the middle again vs 55; villian hits quads on the river; with 7 outs on the turn or 10 on the river to hit the boat (or quads), should this be played a little slower on the flop?
3) KJh, flop comes 239h; all chips in the middle and another heart comes on the river giving this other player an ace high flush (AhAd).
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The third example, you could be against AXs. As is you were still ahead.
Suck outs happen... but if you can get the money in as a 5-1 favorite, then keep playing this game. Youll do well.
The first hand I was happy that we ended up all in on the flop when I saw his cards. On the turn, his only outs were the 10(1), A(3). On the river, the turn card 6 realistically gave him three more outs if another 6 came. We both had about 200 behind and there was about 50 in the pot pre-flop. In this hand I bet $20 on the flop and he raised it to I think around $75. I started to think calling might have been reasonable to see what the turn brought. Although the only card that might have scared me away would have been another 10. He would have likely pushed on the turn so its really doesn't change the result of the hand. Realistically, I'm not folding this hand. 77% on the flop and 84% on the turn.
Flopping straights against trips always bothers me with so many outs for the boat. I'm only a 65% favourite to win the hand on the flop. Is it better to bet less to see if the board pairs by the river?
I know its +ev in these situations but do most players risk their entire stack on the flop very often? in a 65/35 situation, is it better to wait until the turn to get the rest of your chips in when you are more of a favourite?
that would make you very vulnerable to bluffing
putting the money in when your ahead is the nutz
you'll lose too
i'm not much of math guy
but i heard you need to have overall 5%+ edge to beat the rake
5% is the average rake...so that is about right. Obviously if you continously play huge pots, your avg. rake will be lower than 5%.
Like Blondfish said...have a bankroll and it makes things all the easier....