Do you call off most of your stack?

HobbesHobbes
in MTT Strategy
This was a hand that a friend played and we disagree with how it should be played.

About midway in a $75 MTT of FTP. Still a ways from the money. He had just lost about 1/2 his stack the prior hand when AK < AQ. Only played 1 orbit at the table so no real read here.

Blinds 75/150
Hero: ~3800
Villain: ~1800

Hero is dealt KQo in the cut-off
Folded to him and he makes it 450
Villain shoves over top.
Folded back to you.
Hero?

What's your play here and why?

Comments

  • DrTyoreDrTyore
    There's something wrong here..

    Min bet is 600, not 450, if you mean 450 more (i.e. 750), then you're calling 1050 into a pot of 2500ish..

    I call then

    Also, if he's going to bet, bet well... at least 900 there... and then it's still a call to a push

    Mark
  • HobbesHobbes
    Fixed my post.
    It was 75/150...oops
  • DrTyoreDrTyore
    75/150? Fold

    Mark
  • cadillaccadillac
    Pretty close IMO but I think it is likely a fold against your average player. Here is why I think so:

    - You are 2-1 against a range of 88+ AJ+ and the pot is only laying 1.8-1

    - If you fold you have 22BB left and that is a very workable stack. It is big enough to still re-steal with and gives you a lot more options than playing on a 13BB stack if you lose. The 13BB puts you on the short stack in shove or fold mode.

    - If he is really capable of making a move here you could call but I would estimate that you would need to figure he is on a pure re-steal at least 25% of the time.
  • westside8westside8
    cadillac wrote: »
    Pretty close IMO but I think it is likely a fold against your average player. Here is why I think so:

    - You are 2-1 against a range of 88+ AJ+ and the pot is only laying 1.8-1

    What he said. Unless you have specific notes against this villain and that his shove range is wider, this is a fold.
  • RedingtonRedington
    stanard fold pre -

    standard fold as played
  • philliiveyphilliivey
    wow 75 dollar mtt, your moving up in the world Hobbes:)
  • westside8westside8
    philliivey wrote: »
    wow 75 dollar mtt, your moving up in the world hobbes:)
    hobbes wrote: »
    this was a hand that a friend played and we disagree with how it should be played.

    :p:D
  • HobbesHobbes
    philliivey wrote: »
    wow 75 dollar mtt, your moving up in the world Hobbes:)

    In this case it wasn't me.
  • philliiveyphilliivey
    oooops thanks westside, just came out of a meeting with our government so not all with it right now.

    guess i should stick to razzing compeause:D
  • JohnnieHJohnnieH
    KQo I fold with that stack.

    But I think it should be noted that the villain might be on tilt and might have air so I don't hate a call either.
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    philliivey wrote: »
    guess i should stick to razzing compeause:D
    I fold....
  • philliiveyphilliivey
    lol, that's right,just like on the poker table you fold like a lil girl:p.

    (from what i hear from some girl name Kristy):)

    compuease wrote: »
    I fold....
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    philliivey wrote: »
    lol, that's right,just like on the poker table you fold like a lil girl:p.

    (from what i hear from some girl name Kristy):)
    hehe, have you ever played with Kristy before?
  • JohnnieHJohnnieH
    Hobbes wrote: »
    Hero?

    So what happened?
  • zunni74zunni74
    JohnnieH wrote: »
    So what happened?

    My guess, he called, was up against a something like a pocket pair and went out.
  • HobbesHobbes
    Wound up against AQs and was crippled. Went out 2 hands later.
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