Pokerstars FPP's
So I recently started playing online again, a couple weeks now. Been playing mostly 1-2 and 2-4 fixed limit. Made some money, and made my first cashout 
. I left a couple hundred in the account to dick around with, but im wondering where the best place to invest the fpp's ive accumalted would be?
Ive got 6000 fpps, and unless I continue to win I doubt ill get above 7500 without putting more cash in. Ill maintain my optimism on that, but I still prefer to measure the water, and check the density of the glass. lol I dont think I want to wait until I have enough for the porsche.
They offer a 50$ bonus for 5000 fpp, which unless I purchase soon I may not be able to accumulate the fpps to unlock. They also offer some good books for 2000 each, which would be nice but I already have all the good reads from thier list.
Does anyone know anything about the Ed Miller Limit Holdem DVD collection that they offer for 4100? Is this a worthy investment? Or should I just go for the gusto with the 83$ step 3 ticket they offer for 5125? I hear bad things about the steps tournies however.
Any ideas?
. I left a couple hundred in the account to dick around with, but im wondering where the best place to invest the fpp's ive accumalted would be?Ive got 6000 fpps, and unless I continue to win I doubt ill get above 7500 without putting more cash in. Ill maintain my optimism on that, but I still prefer to measure the water, and check the density of the glass. lol I dont think I want to wait until I have enough for the porsche.
They offer a 50$ bonus for 5000 fpp, which unless I purchase soon I may not be able to accumulate the fpps to unlock. They also offer some good books for 2000 each, which would be nice but I already have all the good reads from thier list.
Does anyone know anything about the Ed Miller Limit Holdem DVD collection that they offer for 4100? Is this a worthy investment? Or should I just go for the gusto with the 83$ step 3 ticket they offer for 5125? I hear bad things about the steps tournies however.
Any ideas?
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Steps aren't bad...except you're still playing turbo but you have a shot at a step 4 = $215 ticket. I would personally lean towards doing the steps, but the cash for 5000fpp isn't bad either.
The $82 step entry gives a value of .016 per fpp, which is about the best you can get until you hit much higher amounts. If you consider yourself to be even money or better in the step tourney that would be the way to go.
Ive been leaning towards the Ed Miller DVD collection, because if I can gain any knowledge from them or if they are reliable I can continually profit from the DVDs.
However, I recently read Ed Miller and Sklansky's Small Stakes Hold'em and while a lot of the concepts are good to know, and it may help my game in the long wrong, I wouldnt recommend the books to starters or even intermediate players.
It threw my game off for a while before I really took the concepts for what they really should be. Losing in the short term I dont mind because I believe it has helped my game now.. but when you add the losses up, plus the price of the book, considering that the average player wants to move AWAY from small stakes, I dont believe its a wise investment.
I think the book was geared towards advanced players, which really doesnt make sense because why would they be playing small stakes?
Anyway, the DVD's are not geared for small stakes, and i havent read anything else by Ed miller. So if anyone knows anything about the DVDs or any poker DVDs id be interested.
I think Ill start a thread about his DVDs elsewhere in the forum as well.
That book is great for beginners (who understand poker, not TOTAL noobs), imo. I believe it's probably the wisest investment any limit hold'em player could ever make. And it's useful probably up to 10/20 or 20/40 full ring live, and good for full ring online up to probably 3/6+ easily. I respect your opinion, but I don't want anyone else to be turned off one of the greatest poker books ever.
Also, i recommend you reread it if you haven't already. I've read it at least 3 times.
Also, fractions of a cent really add up if you play enough
Screw that Turbo Takedown...I've gone 0 for in that thing...:p
I'm in the same boat, except its either the first level or first two level.
But definitely, forgot about this but its very good value as well for 5K FPP
Okay, maybe im being a little biased. Im not a beginning player, and I normally dont play small stakes. So it could be the major difference of switching down from medium stakes to small stakes that were crushing me at first. But I still dont think that beginners should be exposed to the emphasis this book puts on drawing to overlays and backdoor draws in multiway pots.
And I will agree that the book should be on the books of lists to read for any player who wants to advance because the concepts are useful and important. Just not beginners, who happen to be the most likely candidates for small stakes games.
I dont like Ed Millers STYLE of teaching.. but his insights are worth the while. This is why i was wondering if anyone knows anything about his DVDs...
PS - Mike, I noticed you said up to 20-40 live, but only around 3-6 online? I guess im not the only who finds that the internet games are considerably tighter than most cash games? Any theories on this?
Not tighter..just tougher.
Yeah, they are tighter online, which is primarily why they're tougher at 1/2 and 2/4 online. Lots of people play most of their hands live resulting in very multiway pots. Online only the very very worst players play so many hands because they'd end up broke so quickly due to the speed of the game. Even bad online players know they have to fold some hands to raises.
That's why the book is better I think for live players, because it's really about crushing in loose games by playing looser yourself (as opposed to a simply winning strategy of playing tight).
What you experienced is just the difference in skill level from live to online play. If you're used to playing 5/10 or 10/20 live, a more appropriate online level to start at would be .25/.50 games. That's seriously about where the skill level is equivalent.
2/4 online is tough, there's players who multitable that for a living. There are lots of bad players too, but a live-only player sitting at a tough table would likely be in trouble.
(I play LHE online a lot, but mostly 6max which you might not be into yet, though you should eventually switch, imo).
I guess even though you pay more in blinds, you get position more often and bigger reward on your good hands? Thats the general idea? Or are you saying that the 6 max tends to attract worse players in general? If so, why do you think that is?
You get to play more hands in 6max. Both more hands as in looser and more hands as in your actual number of hands per hour. If you are a winning player, more hands/hour = more $.
'Worse' players like to play poker for fun. Playing more hands is more fun than playing less hands, therefore 6max. I'd say the best and the worst play 6max (unless they're playing Headsup).
Be careful though, 6max is very different from full ring online. You play more in the blinds as you mentioned, meaning you have to be prepared to steal and defend blinds much more often. You need to be aggressive, i mean like take Small Stakes Hold'em and double it type aggressive.
I was looking forward to playing PokerStars satellites all day today, but the best satellites disappeared for Saturday. Other differences I noticed with PokerStars are 9-person tables instead of ten, many satellites that I registered for keep getting cancelled