Curious DoN Bubble Situation
As I mindlessly play the $10-20 Omaha DoNs , once in a while a tricky math spot appears, and this was definitely one of them.
The massive stack is raising every hand which is fine, but my chip stack can live through the BB then SB and still be slightly ahead of the micro stack when it is his BB at which point I will go all in on any 4 with the massive stack and hope either he or I win.
Of course in my BB I got a hand that will be well ahead of the massive stack's any 4 card range...
I still folded, but I am wondering if anyone who uses the SnG wizard type software could figure out what the proper play is here given the chip stacks. Assume it is NL instead (with no antes), what hands should fold in my spot in a DoN. Not the best comparison since no Omaha hand is often a 4-1 or better favorite preflop, which is what made me fold.
Oh, this sit and go also featured a really bad player who said he knew how Stars was rigged - flush draws hit 9 of 10 times. Why do these people always say flush draws and not straight draws? Anyway, after he went from 1500 to 4500, then he busted after going 0 - 3 on flush draws. Guess Stars was on to him.
Back to the DoN, the final 3 hands starting with my BB went the following:
PokerStars Game #23197859892: Tournament #129076550, $10.00+$0.40 Omaha Pot
Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/12/23 20:02:38 ET
Table '129076550 1' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: jnskuc (9660 in chips)
Seat 6: Monstertal (810 in chips)
Seat 7: ottfig (770 in chips)
Seat 8: Monteroy (790 in chips)
Seat 9: scoundrel43 (2830 in chips)
Seat 10: streetos9 (140 in chips)
ottfig: posts small blind 200
Monteroy: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [3s Kh Kd 8h]
scoundrel43: folds
streetos9: folds
jnskuc: raises 1000 to 1400
Monstertal: folds
ottfig: folds
Monteroy: folds
Uncalled bet (1000) returned to jnskuc
jnskuc collected 1000 from pot
PokerStars Game #23197871270: Tournament #129076550, $10.00+$0.40 Omaha Pot
Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/12/23 20:03:04 ET
Table '129076550 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: jnskuc (10260 in chips)
Seat 6: Monstertal (810 in chips)
Seat 7: ottfig (570 in chips)
Seat 8: Monteroy (390 in chips)
Seat 9: scoundrel43 (2830 in chips)
Seat 10: streetos9 (140 in chips)
Monteroy: posts small blind 200
scoundrel43: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [5c 5h 7d 3c]
streetos9: folds
jnskuc: raises 1000 to 1400
Monstertal: folds
ottfig: folds
Monteroy: folds
scoundrel43: folds
Uncalled bet (1000) returned to jnskuc
jnskuc collected 1000 from pot
jnskuc: doesn't show hand
PokerStars Game #23197876755: Tournament #129076550, $10.00+$0.40 Omaha Pot
Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/12/23 20:03:16 ET
Table '129076550 1' 10-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: jnskuc (10860 in chips)
Seat 6: Monstertal (810 in chips)
Seat 7: ottfig (570 in chips)
Seat 8: Monteroy (190 in chips)
Seat 9: scoundrel43 (2430 in chips)
Seat 10: streetos9 (140 in chips)
scoundrel43: posts small blind 200
streetos9: posts big blind 140 and is all-in
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [4s Qs 8h Jc]
jnskuc: raises 940 to 1140
Monstertal: folds
ottfig: folds
Monteroy: calls 190 and is all-in
scoundrel43: folds
Uncalled bet (940) returned to jnskuc
*** FLOP *** [Ac 5d 5s]
*** TURN *** [Ac 5d 5s]
*** RIVER *** [Ac 5d 5s Td] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jnskuc: shows [Qd 7h 5c 3h] (three of a kind, Fives)
jnskuc collected 20 from side pot-2
Monteroy: shows [4s Qs 8h Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
jnskuc collected 150 from side pot-1
streetos9: shows [2s Qh 2c Th] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
jnskuc collected 560 from main pot
The massive stack is raising every hand which is fine, but my chip stack can live through the BB then SB and still be slightly ahead of the micro stack when it is his BB at which point I will go all in on any 4 with the massive stack and hope either he or I win.
Of course in my BB I got a hand that will be well ahead of the massive stack's any 4 card range...
I still folded, but I am wondering if anyone who uses the SnG wizard type software could figure out what the proper play is here given the chip stacks. Assume it is NL instead (with no antes), what hands should fold in my spot in a DoN. Not the best comparison since no Omaha hand is often a 4-1 or better favorite preflop, which is what made me fold.
Oh, this sit and go also featured a really bad player who said he knew how Stars was rigged - flush draws hit 9 of 10 times. Why do these people always say flush draws and not straight draws? Anyway, after he went from 1500 to 4500, then he busted after going 0 - 3 on flush draws. Guess Stars was on to him.
Back to the DoN, the final 3 hands starting with my BB went the following:
PokerStars Game #23197859892: Tournament #129076550, $10.00+$0.40 Omaha Pot
Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/12/23 20:02:38 ET
Table '129076550 1' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: jnskuc (9660 in chips)
Seat 6: Monstertal (810 in chips)
Seat 7: ottfig (770 in chips)
Seat 8: Monteroy (790 in chips)
Seat 9: scoundrel43 (2830 in chips)
Seat 10: streetos9 (140 in chips)
ottfig: posts small blind 200
Monteroy: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [3s Kh Kd 8h]
scoundrel43: folds
streetos9: folds
jnskuc: raises 1000 to 1400
Monstertal: folds
ottfig: folds
Monteroy: folds
Uncalled bet (1000) returned to jnskuc
jnskuc collected 1000 from pot
PokerStars Game #23197871270: Tournament #129076550, $10.00+$0.40 Omaha Pot
Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/12/23 20:03:04 ET
Table '129076550 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: jnskuc (10260 in chips)
Seat 6: Monstertal (810 in chips)
Seat 7: ottfig (570 in chips)
Seat 8: Monteroy (390 in chips)
Seat 9: scoundrel43 (2830 in chips)
Seat 10: streetos9 (140 in chips)
Monteroy: posts small blind 200
scoundrel43: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [5c 5h 7d 3c]
streetos9: folds
jnskuc: raises 1000 to 1400
Monstertal: folds
ottfig: folds
Monteroy: folds
scoundrel43: folds
Uncalled bet (1000) returned to jnskuc
jnskuc collected 1000 from pot
jnskuc: doesn't show hand
PokerStars Game #23197876755: Tournament #129076550, $10.00+$0.40 Omaha Pot
Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/12/23 20:03:16 ET
Table '129076550 1' 10-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: jnskuc (10860 in chips)
Seat 6: Monstertal (810 in chips)
Seat 7: ottfig (570 in chips)
Seat 8: Monteroy (190 in chips)
Seat 9: scoundrel43 (2430 in chips)
Seat 10: streetos9 (140 in chips)
scoundrel43: posts small blind 200
streetos9: posts big blind 140 and is all-in
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [4s Qs 8h Jc]
jnskuc: raises 940 to 1140
Monstertal: folds
ottfig: folds
Monteroy: calls 190 and is all-in
scoundrel43: folds
Uncalled bet (940) returned to jnskuc
*** FLOP *** [Ac 5d 5s]
*** TURN *** [Ac 5d 5s]
*** RIVER *** [Ac 5d 5s Td] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jnskuc: shows [Qd 7h 5c 3h] (three of a kind, Fives)
jnskuc collected 20 from side pot-2
Monteroy: shows [4s Qs 8h Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
jnskuc collected 150 from side pot-1
streetos9: shows [2s Qh 2c Th] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
jnskuc collected 560 from main pot