Dealers with the shufflemaster or such machine will average 30-40 hands per hour. Without they should do between 20-30. Exceptional dealers can better those numbers by 10%.
Dealers with the shufflemaster or such machine will average 30-40 hands per hour. Without they should do between 20-30. Exceptional dealers can better those numbers by 10%.
I would definitely lean towards the lower end of those ranges at best.
30 hands/hour is around the average for casino dealers, and is what I use for Patience Factor calculations. I think it's twice as much at close to 60 hands per hour online, so Arnold Snyder doesn't make a big enough adjustment for online tournaments. It seems that I get almost as many hands from a $50 online satellite as a $1,240 live satellite.
so if my local cash game rakes $2 per hand for the 'high hand' and it is pays out $80 every four hours, they are likely raking $80 plus (at the low end).
If you are saying that the club already has its normal rake, then it doesn't seem to make sense to have a whopping $2 extra jackpot drop for every single hand when the only jackpot is the $80 high hand every four hours. Unlike a casino where there are many safeguards to ensure that 100% of the jackpot drop is returned to the players, playing in an illegal place with an extra rake for a high hand or bad beat makes it even more -EV.
so if my local cash game rakes $2 per hand for the 'high hand' and it is pays out $80 every four hours, they are likely raking $80 plus (at the low end).
so if my local cash game rakes $2 per hand for the 'high hand' and it is pays out $80 every four hours, they are likely raking $80 plus (at the low end).
Jackpot means theft.
Unless less than 10 hands an hour are played you're getting ripped off. Find somewhere else to play asap.
If you are saying that the club already has its normal rake, then it doesn't seem to make sense to have a whopping $2 extra jackpot drop for every single hand when the only jackpot is the $80 high hand every four hours. Unlike a casino where there are many safeguards to ensure that 100% of the jackpot drop is returned to the players, playing in an illegal place with an extra rake for a high hand or bad beat makes it even more -EV.
I know, but fortunately I have won the jackpot 50% of the times I have played there; with a max rake of $5, I look at it as a $7 total rake max. If I can make money with this rake, I will have to live with the jackpot I guess.
I know, but fortunately I have won the jackpot 50% of the times I have played there; with a max rake of $5, I look at it as a $7 total rake max. If I can make money with this rake, I will have to live with the jackpot I guess.
So 50% of the time when you go there, they should be paying you out $240 rather than $80. So they are taking $160 from you half the time you go there?
So 50% of the time when you go there, they should be paying you out $240 rather than $80. So they are taking $160 from you half the time you go there?
Sounds like a bad deal to me.
at the low end of the scale, probably being shorted $80 each time; this game is pretty slow so 20 hands an hour might be reasonable. Its a single table so high hand is usually a boat. I think some of the players are getting wise to the fact that the rake on the HH is outrageous so hopefully it will be eliminated soon.
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I would definitely lean towards the lower end of those ranges at best.
Jackpot means theft.
Unless less than 10 hands an hour are played you're getting ripped off. Find somewhere else to play asap.
I know, but fortunately I have won the jackpot 50% of the times I have played there; with a max rake of $5, I look at it as a $7 total rake max. If I can make money with this rake, I will have to live with the jackpot I guess.
So 50% of the time when you go there, they should be paying you out $240 rather than $80. So they are taking $160 from you half the time you go there?
Sounds like a bad deal to me.
at the low end of the scale, probably being shorted $80 each time; this game is pretty slow so 20 hands an hour might be reasonable. Its a single table so high hand is usually a boat. I think some of the players are getting wise to the fact that the rake on the HH is outrageous so hopefully it will be eliminated soon.