What Is The Correct Ruling

SteveKerr

Here is the pre-flop action

Player A is Big Blind
Player B Limps in
Player C Pushes all in and has Player A covered

Player A thinks for a bit and calls by pushing all his chips in the middle while flipping over his cards before Player B can decide on his action.

What is the ruling on Player A's cards?

Thanks All

zunni74

Well, you can't take back the fact player B saw the cards.

There is no other outstanding action except a call or fold by player B. It's not like you can kill his hand because of Player A's action.

Player A gets a warning for exposing their hand with others yet to act
Player C doesn't change anything he's already all in.
Player B still gets the same 2 options, Call or fold. With this new information.

I see you asked specifically about Player A, nothing happens to his hand except the warning. If this is repeated behaviour, should he win the hand, he can be given the penalty defined in your rules. You shouldn't kill his hand either.

I'm guessing you were Player A and they killed your hand?

Milo

[Channels 13CARDS] . . . Player A's hand is ruled dead.
Player A is taken into a small back room and beaten for several hours with a hammer.
There being no deserts nearby, Player A will be buried in a whole in a tobacco field somewhere near Woodstock.
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Seriously, though, cash game or tournament? Robert's Rules being used?

compuease

Just saw the almost exact same thing at the V this past week during a tournament, the exposed hand was ruled live and the player still having to decide had this new info to use to make his decision.... The player was given a warning. (No one thought he was angle shooting).

SteveKerr

I was not Player A

Definately no angle shooting from Player A, just not paying attention that someone else still had to act

and this was a Tournament.

I have seen in big tournaments that Player A's hand has been declared dead in this situation and I have also seen just warning giving.

IM-ON-TILT

SteveKerr wrote: »

Here is the pre-flop action

Player A is Big Blind
Player B Limps in
Player C Pushes all in and has Player A covered

Player A thinks for a bit and calls by pushing all his chips in the middle while flipping over his cards before Player B can decide on his action.

What is the ruling on Player A's cards?

Thanks All

I've seen this happen before a couple years ago at the GBH during a 110 man tourney. Player A's cards were ruled dead, thank god it was. I was player C with AJ on a board with a Jack and 2 bricks, and player B calls after they ruled player A's pocket QQ were dead with KJ and I win the pot.

zunni74

IM-ON-TILT wrote: »

I've seen this happen before a couple years ago at the GBH during a 110 man tourney. Player A's cards were ruled dead, thank god it was. I was player C with AJ on a board with a Jack and 2 bricks, and player B calls after they ruled player A's pocket QQ were dead with KJ and I win the pot.

Not to channel 2+2 here but...

Yeah thank god the best hand was ruled dead and you got to take a pot you didn't deserve to win....

BlondeFish

As always, IT DEPENDS on the house rules. If the casino is correctly following TDA Rules, then Player A's hand is not dead.

TDA Rule #31 - Exposing Cards: A player who exposes his cards with action pending may incur a penalty, but will not have a dead hand. The penalty will begin at the end of the hand.

Some places (or floor people) make the very stupid ruling of making the hand dead, even if it was unintentional, accidental or the players were not informed of any house rule that flashing one card heads-up would make the hand dead. For example, this happened by mistake a couple of times in the early satellites for a $10K WPT seat when the supervisor on duty did not know TDA Rules.

SteveKerr wrote: »

What is the ruling on Player A's cards?

13CARDS

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