Folding aces.. agh!!

mj99kbmj99kb
in No Limit / Pot Limit Holdem
Hi everyone! I haven't really posted much.. mainly because I haven't had time. But I HAVE started to play quite a bit more live poker as opposed to online poker (which is where I started). Anyways.. here's my poker story, and please feel free to tell me how you would have played it.

So I come to the table at niagara 1/2nl and buy in and establish a pretty good table image right away. Cracked the big stacks aces with a set of 4s and doubled up and then took down a couple of smaller pots. At this point im at around $200. I get dealt :ac:as in middle position.. I think 2nd or 3rd. It's folded to me so I make it $12 to go. Guy in 5th position calls and the small blind calls. Flop comes :10d:4d:7h and the small blind bets $25, I call (which I think was my mistake) and the other guy folds. Turn comes :9h and the small blind bets $50 real confidently. Now the thing is this guy was a real weak passive player and was playing all kinds of junk, but that actually confused me. I put him on two pair because of how he bet out and how confident he seemed in his hand. At this point I had about $150 in my stack so it was either all in or fold so I folded :'(. I asked him to show and he shows me :qd:10h.

When I was thinking back on it I realized that I should have tested my aces earlier. But even then I think he would have gone all in with top pair. Anyways, that hand kept me up all night. Any input on the hand would be great!

Comments

  • VoodooVoodoo
    Given the texture of that flop you definitely should have raised the flop and put him to a decision. I may have missed it but I don't see where you list what his stack size is. Make it 80-90 total and if he re-shoves you call. Obviously you recognize a weakness in your game in that you know flat calling the flop was bad.
  • GTA PokerGTA Poker
    On a draw heavy board and against terrible players (I'm assuming typical 1 2 casino players) I raise the size of the pot on the flop and hope to commit him. There's not much else you can do with those small stacks and you are definitely ahead of his range.
  • blackmagiczblackmagicz
    If you don't make a move on the flop you have to assume that you are good all the way. The fact that he bets into on the flop removes the possibility of a flush/straight draw (unless he is a real advanced player...which is never the case at 1/2 at niagara) From his bet on the flop I automatically deduct the following:

    1. Based on the fact he called your raise he has a piece of that board
    High side i give him credit for K10 or PP lower than your AA. I rule out 2 pair or a set because most people at a 1/2NL level like to trap because that is what they see on tv.

    2. The fact that he bets more on the turn is a good indication to me that he puts you on the "automatic flush draw". I use this term a lot when I coach people because heads up when there is a draw on the board people automatically assume a check call is "flush or straight draw" material when you do the math and shrink ranges you will find flushes and straights are not there as much as you may think.

    I either pop the turn or the river....most times in a 1/2 game with an over pair and this type of scared betting I value raise the river and it really tilts them

    1. They pay you off
    2. They fold and you muck and they look all confused and start rhyming off all the hands you had and how you are a crappy player for rivering them.

    LOL.... 1/2 ROCKS!!!
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