Poker Ruling - All-in Muck
Hi guys,
Hope this is the right section for this question (it's my first post here).
The following situation occurred at my home game:
Player A goes all-in after the river is shown, Player B decides to call...all others fold. Player B says to Player A, "What do you have?". Player A says "I've got nothing, it's (the pot) yours" and releases his cards face down. I think after this Player A may have even been asked to show his cards again and refused. Player B turns his cards over to show that he called with absolutely nothing (9 high or something). Then, Player A says he has player B beat with a higher card and turns his cards over (that were laying in the middle of the table).
It was a bit of a difficult situation at this point, but I ruled that Player A had mucked his hand and forfeited the pot to Player B. No one at the table disagreed with me, except for Player A of course.
We are all friends so I felt bad for Player A, but as far as I know those are the rules. If he had throw his cards in face up it would have been a different story. Not that it matters for the ruling, but just so you know this is a very small weekly game between friends, so don't feel too bad for anyone.:)
Hope this is the right section for this question (it's my first post here).
The following situation occurred at my home game:
Player A goes all-in after the river is shown, Player B decides to call...all others fold. Player B says to Player A, "What do you have?". Player A says "I've got nothing, it's (the pot) yours" and releases his cards face down. I think after this Player A may have even been asked to show his cards again and refused. Player B turns his cards over to show that he called with absolutely nothing (9 high or something). Then, Player A says he has player B beat with a higher card and turns his cards over (that were laying in the middle of the table).
It was a bit of a difficult situation at this point, but I ruled that Player A had mucked his hand and forfeited the pot to Player B. No one at the table disagreed with me, except for Player A of course.
We are all friends so I felt bad for Player A, but as far as I know those are the rules. If he had throw his cards in face up it would have been a different story. Not that it matters for the ruling, but just so you know this is a very small weekly game between friends, so don't feel too bad for anyone.:)
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Welcome to the forum.
Your ruling was totally correct... Player A folded, so player B should get the pot.
Allen
Be sure to invite Player B to EVERY game in the future
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haha yes...Player B is an interesting character...so much so that I don't think anyone at the table was even surprised when they saw his cards. He REALLY likes to see what other people have lol.
Thanks for the welcome DataMn!
what kind of idiot calls an all-in with 9-high? any openings at your game?
Don't ask lol...and no, not everyone plays like that at my game. He is unique in that respect.
As for the first question, I guess it would be considered a single table tournament. We all buy-in for a set amount and play until there is a winner...you can't leave early and convert your chips back to cash.
Yes, in general there is never an issue there. People go all-in and turn their cards over. This time however Player A did not want to turn their cards over. Other then asking them to turn their cards over, can anything be done? As far as I know, the dealer (self dealt game) is not allowed to turn the cards over for the player. So, if the player declines to turn their cards over they forfeit the hand. Because the all-in happened after all of the cards were on the board, there wasn't that same amount of time to get the players to turn their hands over. Usually the dealer would just wait to deal the flop/turn/river until all parties had turned their cards over, but in this case all the cards were out.
/g2
Thanks...found the option...all is well now
explain the rules and tell him to not be a dick.
SHUT UP!! Don't tell him a damn thing! And send me an invite!!
+1. AJ, let me know if you need a ride.
pkrfce is mostly correct.
If this is a tournament, all hands MUST be turned over when there's an all-in and no more action is possible. Folding is not possible since it isn't a legal option at that point.
When he tried to fold, the dealer should have flipped the cards over.
Also...players don't muck hands. Dealers muck hands.
Poor guy...he looked devastated...cost him a trip to the WSOP