If the world could vote it would be Barack facing off against Ron Paul.
And then Ron Paul would win.
As it is, the world will simply be choosing between the socialist warmonger and the warmongering socialist, so it hardly matters.
I definitely agree with you on Ron Paul Mike... but that would be too obvious. I have met a few Americans recently and the scary thing is some of them are still undecided. I even met one girl that was a huge McCain supporter... I just don't get it.
What is truly scary is that some (not all I admit) McCain supporters are racist and will not vote for Barrack Obama because he is black.
I thought this was 2008!
Is it any less racist than those citizens who will vote for Obama because he is black? I call that one a wash, personally. At least in terms of it's repugnance, anyway . . .
If you really want to talk racism in 2008, you should look more closely at the Far East, and South Asia, imo.
Is it any less racist than those citizens who will vote for Obama because he is black?
I don't see how voting for someone who is black because he is black is the same as not voting for someone because they are black. One is stupid. The other is racist.
It is racist on it's face (no pun intended) if your sole reason, for or against, is based on his skin colour. Is reverse racism really so hard a concept to grasp?
I see how voting for someone who is black because he is black is the same as voting for someone because they are white. One is stupid. The other is racist.
FYP.
Either one is racist since you are voting for one or the other based on race.
Either way it's stupid
Racism exists in may forms, some are just more politically accepted
I don't see how voting for someone who is black because he is black is the same as not voting for someone because they are black. One is stupid. The other is racist.
I agree with 800. If you DON'T vote for someone because they are *insert race* then that's racist.
Think about what you're saying - that "I like black people" is a racist statement!??!
I agree with 800. If you DON'T vote for someone because they are *insert race* then that's racist.
Think about what you're saying - that "I like black people" is a racist statement!??!
FAIL.
What I am saying is that "I'm voting for the purple guy instead of the green guy because I am purple," is just as racist as saying, "I will not vote for the purple guy, because he is purple."
Voting based on skin tone, regardless of which way it swings your vote (either pro or con), is a racist act. It is also, as has been pointed out, incredibly stupid. But what do you expect when you begin to mix race, politics, and just a dash of religion?
What I am saying is that "I'm voting for the purple guy instead of the green guy because I am purple," is just as racist as saying, "I will not vote for the purple guy, because he is purple."
Voting based on skin tone, regardless of which way it swings your vote (either pro or con), is a racist act. It is also, as has been pointed out, incredibly stupid. But what do you expect when you begin to mix race, politics, and just a dash of religion?
Because your choice has nothing to do with the green guy - it's not racist. You don't care whether he's green or red or orange. You just like purple guys. If you vote for someone because they're from Spain and not the guy from Lichtenstein are you prejudiced against Lichtensteinians?
Choosing to vote FOR someone based on skin color IS discriminatory, but not racist. Discrimination is not necessarily 'wrong' or 'immoral'. I do agree that basing your vote SOLELY on color IS stupid.
Because your choice has nothing to do with the green guy - it's not racist. You don't care whether he's green or red or orange. You just like purple guys. If you vote for someone because they're from Spain and not the guy from Lichtenstein are you prejudiced against Lichtensteinians?
Choosing to vote FOR someone based on skin color IS discriminatory, but not racist. Discrimination is not necessarily 'wrong' or 'immoral'. I do agree that basing your vote SOLELY on color IS stupid.
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Because your choice has nothing to do with the green guy - it's not racist. You don't care whether he's green or red or orange. You just like purple guys because they are purple. If you vote for someone because they're from Spain and not the guy from Lichtenstein are you prejudiced against Lichtensteinians?
Choosing to vote FOR someone based on skin color IS discriminatory, but not racist. Discrimination is not necessarily 'wrong' or 'immoral'. I do agree that basing your vote SOLELY on color IS stupid.
Please not the bolded addition/correction.
Racism is a form of discrimination, no? I think we are devolving ionto a battle of semantics, now.
Because your choice has nothing to do with the green guy - it's not racist. You don't care whether he's green or red or orange. You just like purple guys. If you vote for someone because they're from Spain and not the guy from Lichtenstein are you prejudiced against Lichtensteinians?
Choosing to vote FOR someone based on skin color IS discriminatory, but not racist. Discrimination is not necessarily 'wrong' or 'immoral'. I do agree that basing your vote SOLELY on color IS stupid.
So as long as I can put a positive spin on it it's not racism.
Racism is a form of discrimination, no? I think we are devolving ionto a battle of semantics, now.
Noted. I agree about the semantics. Racism is a particular form of discrimination. All discrimination is not negative.
Describing a black persons decision to vote for someone like them as racist, seems pretty uh, racist to me.:biggrin:
What I am saying is that "I'm voting for the purple guy instead of the green guy because I am purple,"
You're twisting the argument by adding that the person voting is ALSO of the same race/colour creed. That wasn't part of your original point.
If I LOVE the Montreal Canadians and therefore vote for Ken Dryden how is that wrong other than being a stupid reason to vote for someone? People vote for millions of reasons.
"I'm voting for Obama because he plays poker". =Stupid.
"I'm won't vote for Obama because he is black" = racist.
"I'm voting for her because I like boobies" =stupid
You're twisting the argument by adding that the person voting is ALSO of the same race/colour creed. That wasn't part of your original point.
My apologies. I thought I was pretty clear about that in my postings. That is the crux of what I'm getting at, though.
And I do not think it racist to call someone a racist for voting strictly based on their ethnic/racial biases (ie a purple guy voting for a purple guy solely because they are both purple guys).
Anyway, the Pecan pie is finished. Who wants some Devil's Food cake?
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And then Ron Paul would win.
As it is, the world will simply be choosing between the socialist warmonger and the warmongering socialist, so it hardly matters.
I agree with Big Mike. Ron Paul, FTW.
It's only about who he rest of the world knows.
Hmm, I don't doubt that they do. But Dems are almost certainly worse. See: Chicago politics.
Why go that far. Just look at Quebec politics. Or the federal Liberal party.:D
Ok..The Republicans will win because they cheat more. See 2000 Election results from Florida.
I thought this was 2008!
Yes but it's about 400 years earler than anyone would have expected.
Is it any less racist than those citizens who will vote for Obama because he is black? I call that one a wash, personally. At least in terms of it's repugnance, anyway . . .
If you really want to talk racism in 2008, you should look more closely at the Far East, and South Asia, imo.
I don't see how voting for someone who is black because he is black is the same as not voting for someone because they are black. One is stupid. The other is racist.
FYP.
Either one is racist since you are voting for one or the other based on race.
Either way it's stupid
Racism exists in may forms, some are just more politically accepted
I agree with 800. If you DON'T vote for someone because they are *insert race* then that's racist.
Think about what you're saying - that "I like black people" is a racist statement!??!
What I am saying is that "I'm voting for the purple guy instead of the green guy because I am purple," is just as racist as saying, "I will not vote for the purple guy, because he is purple."
Voting based on skin tone, regardless of which way it swings your vote (either pro or con), is a racist act. It is also, as has been pointed out, incredibly stupid. But what do you expect when you begin to mix race, politics, and just a dash of religion?
Because your choice has nothing to do with the green guy - it's not racist. You don't care whether he's green or red or orange. You just like purple guys. If you vote for someone because they're from Spain and not the guy from Lichtenstein are you prejudiced against Lichtensteinians?
Choosing to vote FOR someone based on skin color IS discriminatory, but not racist. Discrimination is not necessarily 'wrong' or 'immoral'. I do agree that basing your vote SOLELY on color IS stupid.
you're hot, just wanted to make sure you knew that.
Please not the bolded addition/correction.
Racism is a form of discrimination, no? I think we are devolving ionto a battle of semantics, now.
So as long as I can put a positive spin on it it's not racism.
Well, if you want to define my scenario as racism, i have no problem with that. If that is the case, it's not always bad to be racist, i guess.
Noted. I agree about the semantics. Racism is a particular form of discrimination. All discrimination is not negative.
Describing a black persons decision to vote for someone like them as racist, seems pretty uh, racist to me.:biggrin:
You're twisting the argument by adding that the person voting is ALSO of the same race/colour creed. That wasn't part of your original point.
If I LOVE the Montreal Canadians and therefore vote for Ken Dryden how is that wrong other than being a stupid reason to vote for someone? People vote for millions of reasons.
"I'm voting for Obama because he plays poker". =Stupid.
"I'm won't vote for Obama because he is black" = racist.
"I'm voting for her because I like boobies" =stupid
"I like purple guys" = gay
My apologies. I thought I was pretty clear about that in my postings. That is the crux of what I'm getting at, though.
And I do not think it racist to call someone a racist for voting strictly based on their ethnic/racial biases (ie a purple guy voting for a purple guy solely because they are both purple guys).
Anyway, the Pecan pie is finished. Who wants some Devil's Food cake?
Well, it depends . . . "cheers:
This is the position I took in the Canadian election as well, fwiw.
The American Conservative -- <font color="#000066">Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.</font>
I hate ALL 4 colour decks. That better?
JUST because of their COLOUR!???!