Turningstone Superstack Series Nov 28 - Dec 7
If I didn't have my 2 exams on Dec 5/6, I would be there for the entire week. Since I won't be able to make it, I'm sure there is someone that would be able to benefit from this posting.
Turning Stone Super Stack Tournament Schedule and Details
Turning Stone Super Stack Tournament Schedule and Details
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Event 3 & 8 Patience 19.3 Skill 9
Event 7 Patience 58.5 Skill 16
multitable qualifier Patience 13.7 Skill 7 Rake 9%
Rake for $200. events is 16.7%
Rake for $300. events is 14.3%
Rake for $500. event is 10.7%
Rake for $1000. event is 6.7%
Pretty darn nice tournaments......
They may even be better structures than Bristol... no where near the charm and ambiance though...
- $240 Events #1 & 4: 19.2% rake,
- $240 "Turbo" Events #3 & 8: 19.2% rake, SL=6, PF=19.3, Utility Factor = 129, Rank = 5.
- $350 Events #2 & 5: 16.9% rake, SL=6, PF=42, Utility Factor = 209, Rank = 6.
- $560 Event #6: 13.4% rake, SL=6, PF=42, Utility Factor = 209, Rank = 6.
- $1070 Event #7: 9.3% rake, SL=6, PF=59, Utility Factor = 488! Rank = 6. This has even more play than the $10,300 WPT NAPC, which had a Utility Factor of 445.
- $85 SNG: 18.8% rake, SL=1, PF=2.0.
- $235 single-table SNG: 8.9% rake, SL=1, PF=2.0.
- $235 multi-table multi-qualifier satellite: 8.9% rake, SL=2, PF=3.6 (not 13.7). Unlike Seneca Casino which is improperly charging taxes for non-taxable satellites and cash tournament winnings below $5,000,
Conclusion: A rake of almost 20% (+ 30% withholding) is difficult to beat, but if you ever dreamt of playing in a $10,000+ Rank 6 event, you will probably never get anything cheaper in Canada than Turning Stone's $200+$40 events. Is anybody interested in participating in a rake-free satellite for these incredible Rank 6 tournaments?
And aren't you going to explain poker tournament "utility factor".. Some may not know of the books you ghost wrote for Arnold Snyder....
I stand by the rest of my comments...
So has anyone else read Arnold Snyders Poker Tournament Formula 2 for math geeks? Actually it's a really good book even for those that don't have a math background... It provokes some real deep thought processes..
Keep in mind that I don't think that Arnold Synder is the be all and end all either, just one more weapon, albeit a pretty heavy duty one, in your arsenal.
Correct Chip Value Theory and Implications for Winning Poker Tournament Strategy
I would be interested in going also. Please PM me
Thanks.
So I take it nobody is interested in a rake-free EV-maximizing satellite with a decent structure and would rather pay up to 19% rake at the casino satellites? ???
/g2
For those wondering the poker room rate is 90US a night at Turning Stone and you have to play 4 hours of poker or be registered in the tourney.
I will be playing the Saturday 350.00
just wondering if it is better to pre register or just register down there?
you can register the day of. Tons of room in these. Registration starts 1-2 hours before the game. Line moves very fast.
gl
edit wow i don't think that was what you were asking at all
edit2 also there was late registration when i went to the empire state thing in august
Good luck to those who are playing, and hopefully there will be more trip reports posted than this month.
I plan to play a few of these in 2009. Now that GBH has improved the structure (in my opinion) with the freezeout format, there will be some decent casino tournaments again in Ontario.
Anyone want to meet up while I am down there send me a PM.
Goodluck to everyone heading over the border!
So I ended up playing in Saturday's tournament and the turnout for both Friday's and Saturday's turnout were pretty good (I believe 400+ and 200+ players respectively). Both tournies had to finish the next day.
The structure was really good as stated on the first page. I even heard some players complaining that it was way too slow! Even though I dropped below chip average several times I never really felt pressured to push as there was more than enough time to wait for a good hand.
The resort itself I thought was really nice and I ended up staying there one night (which was much better than the motel I stayed at but much more expensive) since we had to finish play the next day. I played 1-2 NL for a few hours before the tourney resumed and looking back it would've probably been as profitable playing the cash games than playing the tourney (half the players on the table were definitely the 'touristy' type).
Anyways, being the short stack, I get knocked out within an hour of play (but not before 3 others so I managed to jump up a few spots) and to my semi-surprise they did not tax me at all and gave me my full winnings in chips. I had the impression that they started taxing players but I guess it's after a certain amount?
Although the drive back was long with the bad weather, all in all, I'd probably go again especially if I had someone to split expenses with if they have similar structured tournaments in the future.
I wish I could say I won that much but I only won a little over $800.