Fold After Flopping the Nuts?
A very unusual hand took place in a tournament recently. We were about an hour+ in when this hand was dealt
PokerStars Game #792550083: Tournament #3042062, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2004/10/23 - 01:04:57 (ET)
Table '3042062 10' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: JP_Patches (14690 in chips)
Seat 3: quadducks (1325 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: gman80205 (27201 in chips)
Seat 5: Monteroy (3970 in chips)
Seat 6: getaway (5355 in chips)
Seat 8: popeye77 (5411 in chips)
Seat 9: crazie8 (4130 in chips)
gman80205: posts small blind 75
Monteroy: posts big blind 150
crazie8 said, "un real"
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [8s 7s]
getaway: calls 150
popeye77: folds
crazie8: calls 150
JP_Patches: folds
quadducks: folds
gman80205: calls 75
Monteroy: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 6s Td]
gman80205: checks
Monteroy: checks
getaway: bets 500
crazie8: folds
gman80205: raises 5050 to 5550
Monteroy: calls 3820 and is all-in
getaway: calls 4705 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9c 6s Td] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [9c 6s Td Jc] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gman80205: shows [9d 7c] (two pair, Tens and Nines)
getaway: shows [Ks Qs] (a straight, Nine to King)
getaway collected 2770 from side pot
Monteroy: shows [8s 7s] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
getaway collected 12060 from main pot
at first the flop made my eyes open up. Getaways bet I liked because he had shown he was willing to call any all in with literally any type of draw (flush, inside straight, outside straight didn't matter). gman had been a bit of a maniac as well so he could have had all sorts of variations of a straight draw as well.
The problem was that as great as my hand was, it was not that hard to be outdrawn, especially against 2 people who are willing to gamble (there was zero doubt whether getaway would call).
In this case it was too good a hand to pass on (especially with zero flush draw on the flop), but I am wondering if for instance the flop had 2 of a suit in it would it be reasonable to fold in the face of 3 way action? I am not sure I could though it would be an interesting choice. with 3 of a suit it really becomes a lot harder to easily make that call.
The hand just happened to make me chuckle because of how I reacted in a gut way to facing 2 others all in. I was looking forward to heads up action (though I would have lost to getaway who would have called obviously) and I did not anticipate 2 others all in and it made me look at my hand as not quite the untouchable one it felt like after that flop.
I found it to be a very interesting situation. Comments and feedback appreciated.
PokerStars Game #792550083: Tournament #3042062, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2004/10/23 - 01:04:57 (ET)
Table '3042062 10' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: JP_Patches (14690 in chips)
Seat 3: quadducks (1325 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: gman80205 (27201 in chips)
Seat 5: Monteroy (3970 in chips)
Seat 6: getaway (5355 in chips)
Seat 8: popeye77 (5411 in chips)
Seat 9: crazie8 (4130 in chips)
gman80205: posts small blind 75
Monteroy: posts big blind 150
crazie8 said, "un real"
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Monteroy [8s 7s]
getaway: calls 150
popeye77: folds
crazie8: calls 150
JP_Patches: folds
quadducks: folds
gman80205: calls 75
Monteroy: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 6s Td]
gman80205: checks
Monteroy: checks
getaway: bets 500
crazie8: folds
gman80205: raises 5050 to 5550
Monteroy: calls 3820 and is all-in
getaway: calls 4705 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9c 6s Td] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [9c 6s Td Jc] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gman80205: shows [9d 7c] (two pair, Tens and Nines)
getaway: shows [Ks Qs] (a straight, Nine to King)
getaway collected 2770 from side pot
Monteroy: shows [8s 7s] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
getaway collected 12060 from main pot
at first the flop made my eyes open up. Getaways bet I liked because he had shown he was willing to call any all in with literally any type of draw (flush, inside straight, outside straight didn't matter). gman had been a bit of a maniac as well so he could have had all sorts of variations of a straight draw as well.
The problem was that as great as my hand was, it was not that hard to be outdrawn, especially against 2 people who are willing to gamble (there was zero doubt whether getaway would call).
In this case it was too good a hand to pass on (especially with zero flush draw on the flop), but I am wondering if for instance the flop had 2 of a suit in it would it be reasonable to fold in the face of 3 way action? I am not sure I could though it would be an interesting choice. with 3 of a suit it really becomes a lot harder to easily make that call.
The hand just happened to make me chuckle because of how I reacted in a gut way to facing 2 others all in. I was looking forward to heads up action (though I would have lost to getaway who would have called obviously) and I did not anticipate 2 others all in and it made me look at my hand as not quite the untouchable one it felt like after that flop.
I found it to be a very interesting situation. Comments and feedback appreciated.