best online poker room.
Im looking for an online room to play in from about 8pm to about midnight. Been playing online for only a couple of months but have accounts on partypoker, titan poker and 888poker. I don't like playing in either of those rooms on the above mentioned times. I would think that pokerstars, ultimate bet or full tilt would be good choices since alot of american players are allowed to play on those sites. Which one of those three sites would you recommend? Any other options possibly? Thanks for the help.
Comments
Full Tilt Poker Rakeback - 27% + up to $600 FREE
As well, the number of entrants is usually reasonable at UB again unlike PokerStars. And further, they have several guaranteed prize pools that are often not met by the number of entrants (i.e. you get a good overlay).
I agree that the MTT's on UB are better.. I just can't bring myself to playing there since the whole super-user/insider cheating scandal.
On a side note, bought back into Pacific (like going from a X-box3 to an Atari 2600)....anyone play those double up sit-n-go's...talk about easy money.
Pantsonfire:Im sure ub has pretty good overlays for gtd tourneys. Partypoker is like that too, tourneys aren't the problem for me. Partys ring games really suck from early evening till early morning, no easy money. Ub has increased first depositors bonus. Used to be 111% matching bonus to a maximum of $1100. Now its 200% up to a maximum of $1100. Since the scandal alot of players probably got there money out of there and ub is trying to get some new customers. Sounds like a pretty good deal though.
T8urmoney:I got some money on pacific too. My complaint is for ring games. Not enough tables running and players are too slow. Lots of fish though. Sng's and tourneys seem okay though.
what stake
for fun or for serious
if for fun, any room you like is ok. as long you like it
for seriously
FTP with rakeback should be your primo choice
stars should be your last choice, unless you can make it to Supernova.
alot of people don't realize how much $$ RB add up to be in a year.
I would be signing up for the maximum first depositors bonus. On stars it would be fifty matching bonus, but theres another site im on and i can get one hundred. I plan on playing at microlimits till I earn x amount of dollars and am able to go to the next limit while clearing my matching bonus.
I heard of the rakeback on ftp, but isn't there a ten percent rake at that limit also? How much rakeback in terms of dollars do you think I could earn per day? Currently I play about four hours in the afternoon and just started multi tabling three tables. Really just looking for a site to play against soft competition in the evenings. Thanks for the endorsement though. Cheers.
all other limit are 5% max $3
for you now, do mass bonuswhoring is good way to speed up your roll.
since it's small, i suuggest you go whore all the small bonus until you hit $500.
there were alot of site that you can get both rakeback + deposite bonus at the sametime, which you start to see your bankroll increase like mad man.
another way to speed up,
PM Grahm for the free bankroll deal (i think he give you money to play)
then post like mad man in this forum, and get more money off Grahm. (yes, you can convert CPF dollar into USD)
as for Rakeback
i multi-6 table. 2hr per day. usually comes around $500 a month.
Your bottom like will be better off in the long run with RB.
P* and Tilt both have a lot more tables going than all other sites, but just about every other site has much softer play. Generally, the sites that don't allow US customer's or are marketed more overseas, are pretty soft.
Also sites that have casinos have more bad players.
One example would be BetFair. I think they have a great interface. You can 6 table on a 17" monitor. They don't have many tables going at night, our time, as that's pretty late for the Euros who play there, but there are enough who stick around. Eg, 3 $50nl tables going at Midnight EST. When I was last on there. PM me if you'd like rake back link for Betfar.
Pacific and Cak3 are both realy soft, but their interface and software is awful and the support on both sites is a joke.
Eg. Cak3 limits the amount of tables that are open. So if all the $.10/$.20 tables are full, and people are on waiting lists, they won't open a new table. I emailed them asking why they wouldn't, they just said that there's no plans to open more tables. I'm basically telling them I want to spend my money with them and they said "no thanks".
Pacific is just sketchy as hell and won't go into my experiences with them.
Ultimate Butt and Absolut e I would just stay away from, as I don't think anyone should give these people your money since they cheated their players for millions.
You gotta take the good with the bad, when it comes to a poker room. You shouldn't want to sacrifice things like game variety, software stability, good interface, good support and most of all rake back for softer games. You just need to learn how to beat the tougher games.
You are wondering how much money you make with rake back?
If you 4 table $25nl for 2 hours a day, that's approx $9 in rake back. $9/day = over $3000 a year.
So it is essential to get rake back. Makes no sense not to. You get it forever.
Hopefully we will have a good one here soon, but still working on the details.
Alright, you need take our advice here, and get rake back. FORGET BONUSES!!! They're mostly insignificant compared to rake back.
Most sites give you the deposit bonus PLUS the rake back.
Rake back accumulates faster than most bonuses and is forever.
If you signed up for every site, collected the bonus, and moved on, what will you do once all your bonuses are gone? Since you've already signed up, there's no way your getting rake back.
You can get rake back at just about every site other than P*.
It's just silly NOT to get it.
i have to disagree with you, as you don't seem to know the power of bonus.
best
1. bonus + RB
2. RB.
for site like ongame, ipoker, prima
so many skin, just deposite bonus could run you years
then there is store bonus, reload bonus.
for site like FTP, 1 of a kind, always signup with rakeback, and clear their deposite bonus.
for site like ongame. ipoker that don't allow rakeback.
8x bonus = 50% rakeback.
prima, bonus and rakeback beat anything else.
i play FTP because there is always a game, so RB is important.
once you clear prima deposite bonus, they'll give you VIP RB.
then you go clear bonus at another prima skin.
there is probly more then 10+ skin you can go. and only comeback with reload bonus.
at prima
i am 5% away from clearing my $500 dollar reload.
my VIP RB is almost $300 (weight contribute)
according to my tracking software, i have pay $1340 in Rake. (dealt method) which equal to around $1000 rake using weight contribute.
prima does not deduct bonus from rakeback.
Next stop, Eurolinx, they just give me $1000 reload bonus, and i have VIP RB too.
there were alot of trap in bonus hunting
make sure you do the math.
i start out as inexprience bonus hunter, and not knowing much difference between rake structure, point award system.....etc
i got lazy, and paid expensive price.
for example
i went to ongame, it cost me $700 in bonus ( i didn't get it)
i did the math, estimate the difference between dealt and weight contribute. confidence that i'll be able to clear $5000 bonus.
but few thing i didn't expect.
The software is so bad, i can't put into the amount of hand without going tilting. (estimate 3000 hand per day, I endup only put in average 700 hand per day....... )
i end up email hollywood to cancel my deposite bonus, because there is no way i can clear first installment of ($1250)
so, all work, and no pay.....O*(^%$$% ongame.
That is a pretty sick bonus you have on your other site. You must be quite the negotiator, Im sure you will get a good deal for this site.
Tellbox
There's some sites out there where I just want the deposit bonus and then move on, because I don't have any intention of sticking around for long. Talking about the lessor known sites. But will probably take a rakeback offer on a site such as ftp.
Chuckieland
Bonus hunting can last for years, your right. Deposits, reload and store bonuses. I've done my bonus hunting homework. Start with the small ones and work my way up. Rake struture is also important. Also the number of days to clear. I don't think it makes that much sense to get rb on a site that I know I won't be a everyday player at. These bonuses usually expire within 30 to 120 days.
yes, you are right
except that most place that give you rakeback will give you bonus as well.
rakeback+deposite bonus bigger then just deposite bonus...no?
also, in case if you have change of heart, it doesn't hurt to get it, and not use it, then not geting it, but may want in the future.
is not like you have to pay membership fee to get RB.
Tonight I was playing a freeroll on stars. Wasn't getting any cards at all. Had about 9 big blinds left, and I found aq offsuit. I shipped it all in. Thinking I'd get heads up I end up getting three callers. I knew that would be the end of me. One player had me dominated with ak. But the other two players had qj and a7. What would possess a person to call in with that crap?
1. those are not bad ( compare to J6s or Q7s)
2. you actually want those trash hand to call you.
3. lol at the 300FPP bonus...... ><
my 2 cents
1. it can be done, i remember when i got it start, donk my $400 bankroll till it's only $10 left in my FTP. and i was lucky to pass by the book store and happen to see the Harrington for tournment books VI and VII. that really help me out the biggest, and set my basic understand how the game work. such as position, gap, squeeze sandwich....etc
2. you can't do it with SNG along specially the nano SNG with20% rake. you need cashgame + Bonus + rakeback
3. drop shortstack (unless you know alot about it, which i'm sure you are not shortstack pro yet)
i have trail shortstack to clear bonus, on paper it sound good, but when it put it to the test, it's not.
even at extremely good bonus+rakeback site such as williamhill, you'll come up breakeven or slight lost after bonus+rakeback.
so i though, cypto is all rock, i try shortstack at ipoker
same result.
what it come down.
it's hard to beat the blind+rake and still show profit (specially 6max game)
3. take out $100 from you pocket
start doing Kickback deal
then do the exclusive BW deal for bigger bonus.
then choose a site that offer rakeback, work on you game.
when you do kickback or BW, make sure you don't doing on site such as FTP. also, when you whore the network, always leave 1 room open for special deal. (of course, you have to do you homework to see which one has better special deal)
4. do some propbet here
say making $200 playing 100 $1 doubleup sng ^^
I would agree with this