Just thought I would get some feedback on this hand from a $2 Qualifier to a $10K Guaranteed on SwankPoker. No real reads on any players.
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Blinds 15/30 NL Hold'em - 24.08.2008 - 14:31
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Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players: 10
Seat 1: 13CARDS ( 2365 ) - in game
Seat 2: jigsaw101 ( 3025 ) - in game
Seat 3: ITBMisterE ( 3520 ) - in game
Seat 4: q3184nlx ( 1450 ) - in game
Seat 5: Pirman ( 1470 ) - in game
Seat 6: frenchboy ( 935 ) - in game
Seat 7: a90maarten ( 6265 ) - in game
Seat 8: Aphex ( 2645 ) - in game
Seat 9: Bee_Lou ( 1415 ) - in game
Seat 10: Allwinx ( 2410 ) - in game
Given the stakes, I think I can make some general reads. The cold callers of the reraise are almost always behind QQ here. The original raiser probably has the best hand of the three opponents left in the pot.
So the key is to figure out his range. I would put him on TT+, AQs+. And that might be conservative. I would push your QQ in this spot. Unless one of the two cold callers is slowplaying AA, there is a lot of dead money in this pot. You may get called by everyone with inferior hands and likely have to dodge an A and a K but winning such a pot would vault you into a real shot at winning.
In a major tournament against solid players, I would figure there would be no cold calls and that the all-in reraise would mean AK, AA or KK and perhaps even QQ. However, even in that case, AK is more likely than QQ+ so the pot odds would dictate a call.
Also, losing to the shorter stack would leave you 30BBs which is still enough to get back into it.
It is very difficult to fold QQ/KK preflop, but I have ended up all-in against AA about a dozen times in live games. In this case with the third raise, I would fold QQ. Who had the AA/KK, or were they all online donkeys?
I think the only time that I cracked AA with my KK (or QQ) preflop all-in was at Fallsview last month when I sucked out quad kings against an acquaintance for a pot of over $1,000. I haven't seen my poor friend since, so I hope he didn't quit poker because of "that donkey who sucked out on my AA."
13CARDS folds.
jigsaw101 calls $1050.
a90maarten calls $1050.
**** dealing flop **** [ 5h, Js, 5s ]
jigsaw101 checks.
a90maarten checks.
**** dealing turn **** [ 6h ]
jigsaw101 checks.
a90maarten checks.
**** dealing river **** [ Th ]
jigsaw101 checks.
a90maarten checks.
Bee_Lou shows two pairs, sevens and fives [ 7d, 7h ].
jigsaw101 mucks [ Kc, 9c ].
a90maarten mucks [ As, 7s ].
Bee_Lou wins 4640 chips from main pot with two pairs, sevens and fives [ Js, 7d, 7h, 5h, 5s ].
You know what the real key is to solid play? Just make the same play with the same read every single time. I think too many people make a good read and then lost a key pot and either get crippled or knocked out.
I said you would probably have to dodge two high cards. But the odds are that you would and winning the pot would have vaulted you up the leaderboard.
I think too many players make a good play only to get unlucky and then when they face the same situation they are still thinking "about last time". We all know, or should know, that the results of "last time" have no bearing on our current decision.
I don't know if that was a factor here for you or not, but that's my general comment.
Comments
No real reads? I assume people are loose. Probably smaller pairs or AK. I think you have the upper hand.
I say call. You would lose about half your chips right? Maybe a bit more, if you lost?
Either that or raise all-in to get everyone else out of the pot to isolate for less chance of a bad beat.
So the key is to figure out his range. I would put him on TT+, AQs+. And that might be conservative. I would push your QQ in this spot. Unless one of the two cold callers is slowplaying AA, there is a lot of dead money in this pot. You may get called by everyone with inferior hands and likely have to dodge an A and a K but winning such a pot would vault you into a real shot at winning.
In a major tournament against solid players, I would figure there would be no cold calls and that the all-in reraise would mean AK, AA or KK and perhaps even QQ. However, even in that case, AK is more likely than QQ+ so the pot odds would dictate a call.
Also, losing to the shorter stack would leave you 30BBs which is still enough to get back into it.
I think the only time that I cracked AA with my KK (or QQ) preflop all-in was at Fallsview last month when I sucked out quad kings against an acquaintance for a pot of over $1,000. I haven't seen my poor friend since, so I hope he didn't quit poker because of "that donkey who sucked out on my AA."
I said you would probably have to dodge two high cards. But the odds are that you would and winning the pot would have vaulted you up the leaderboard.
I think too many players make a good play only to get unlucky and then when they face the same situation they are still thinking "about last time". We all know, or should know, that the results of "last time" have no bearing on our current decision.
I don't know if that was a factor here for you or not, but that's my general comment.