party poker vs poker stars
what do you like and hate about each site. stars good points they have frequent player points which reward loyal players. they have heads up tables which are fun. there techincal support is very good. bad points you can't choose your seat. tournaments start 1 minute after tables are full. too many bs beats were the worst hand before the flop wins. slow payment by cheque. party's good points. you can choose your seat. games start immediately after table fills. bad beat tables availble.bad points at party poor customer service. usually too good hands dealt. terrible player search facility. you have to transfer $50 unlike stars you can transfer any amount.each sites have there good and bad points. if stars every sends my cheque i'll try party again. i'll let u know how i do :canada:
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cheers
Guess that confirms my beliefs in the other thread you started about being cheated that all of those "emails" you got from Pokerstars support staff (the ones with no last names) were not entirely real
Lot of people who lose assume they got cheated, it is a very common form of rationalization.
You want to make money playing a solid game, go to party. the competition is easier and while you will suffer bad beats, play the game right and the pots you win will dwarf the bad beats.
my two cents
I recently started playing at Party. Overall, my feeling is that Party is much much easier to win at. I say that even though I do very well at Paradise. My comments refer only to sit and go's as that is all I have been playing recently (other than multi's when I have the time).
Obviously, given the shear numbers at both sites, there are a lot of bad players, however, my feeling is that the "average" player you come up against is better at Paradise than at Party.
Obviously there is nothing scientific about my above comments, but I am interested to hear from anyone who plays at paradise and party regularly.
BLACK99
Party:
I find the ring games much easier to beat, though you have to accept the fact that you will get badly sucked out a number of times each night. If you become tilt proof to this, you'll do fine. (Though my patience was tested this past week when, 6 times in a row, I had the best hand on the turn only to be taken down by a miracle river who never had better than a 4:1 draw. It's all varience) Part of what makes the rings easier to beat is that you can immediately see the results of the last hand played in a seperate window which gives you the hole cards of people that mucked on the river. This is invaluable information.
When it comes to SnG's and MTT, Party is awful. In single table SnG's the blinds go up after a set number of hands. To me, this turns the game into a crap shoot once you get close to the bubble. (ie. It's harder to wait for a hand on a given level when, no matter how fast it takes, you're only going to see 10 hands at most.)
Their selection of MTT's are boring and the juice they take for any game lower than 10+1 is rediculous. (5+1 anyone?) Also, there is NO benefiit for taking our rake (ie. rake-back or FPP-type things)
PokerStars:
Generally much tighter, more intellient play. I'm having a tougher time beating the lower limit rings games, but I don't come here to play the low limit ring games. PokerStars have great tournaments.
Blinds increase at a set level and, (I'm not sure if this is just me), but since the players pride themselves on being "smart, intelligent" players, they're much easier to bully around. At a STT, generally half or more of the players fall into this category. If you can identify and isloate them, you'll do well.
Also, the selection of MTT cannot be beat. From their Sunday 250K's to $1 NL games they have cash MTT's to suit any bankroll. Their interface is also much nicer than Party's. (Though, my favorite interface is still vcpoker) FPP's also give something back for taking rake. FPP's can be used to earn entries into larger tournaments. (ie. the 500FPP sat's to the 250K)
Basically, if it wasn't for the profitable lower limit games on Party, all my money would be at Stars. Every time I'm at Party I cringe.
but i play a lot on the NL$100 tables there, and although the variance is high, its still easy money...
for STT, i like ultimatebet...they always have STT that fill up quickly....and they run much nicer than party's (not to mention their interface is much nicer as well)
no exp. with stars, can't comment on that...eventually i'll give them a try
Hammer
thats the main reason i play these sats, to make the quick buck
i won 5 entrys to the wcoop $200+15 rebuy and made some nice pocket change w/ it
not to mention the $650 i won yesterday....... went from having $5.50 in my account 2 days ago to $569 (used some of the $w myself, and sold 611 of em)
yay good rush, play the rush
Pigga
Nice feature! Wasn't aware of that...You mean, you can just take the $$$ instead of the satellite entry. I suppose you need to contact the support for that? How is it working?
The only 2 things I really like from Party is the softness of their ring games and also the feature of hand history available on the spot by a single click...That is the only thing I miss when I play at Stars (I know, you can request the same hand history by e-mail...and it doesn't take that long) what laziness can do...
Kind of. You don't get real money, you get something called either T$ or W$ depending on what tournament you won the entry too. The T$ can only be used for tournament entry fees, and the W$ can only be used for "large" tournament (WSOP, WPT, etc) events.
Either T$ or W$ can be sold for real money (normally at a small discount) to another player.
No, to get the T$ or W$ you simply need to unregister for the corresponding tournament.
However, you can (and should IMO) normally contact support to conduct any T$ or W$ to real money trade instead of simply trusting your counterparty to execute the trade honestly.
ScottyZ
TY for the clarification Scotty
exactly what scottyz said, i just unreg'd from the super-satellite and i had $650 w $ in my acct, i used about 40 of them playing more satellites and sold the rest 610 for 525 american, which is awesome i got about 85% exchange...... if ne1 else has $w to sell, let me know, ill give ya the email of a guy who gave me 85% exchange
I think the going rate for W$ now that the WPT sats and stuff are running is better than 85%.. of course, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.. I see most posts of people selling W$ or T$ get responses pretty quick..
Yeah he was spamming a lot of the sit n go tables last night.
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some how this was sent to my email i'd like to know how he got my address anybody else get it
Party is good for making some cash if you play solid. Once in while though, i really need a break from the site and will usually go to paradise or ultimate bet to get the party out of my system then I do fine again. I like paradise and think its a solid site.
Personally I've never been a huge fan of pokerstars, I never liked the interface, how the site is, and I guess I havent played there over one buy in but thats what I got from it..