help with this hand.

vinsanity

Anything I could've done differently? Or was it basically a crapshoot at that point with everyone at 4-5 times bb. Would a raise of 1000 or 1500 signify more strength and a legitimate hand rather than the all in which he might've seen as a steal?


***** Hand History for Game 1031537045 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6335398) - Thu Oct 07 06:17:56 EDT 2004
Table Table 11054 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: LondonDad (2653)
Seat 3: JuanLopezjr (2636)
Seat 6: rami32 (2668)
Seat 8: pablodelaos (2043)
rami32 posts small blind (250)
pablodelaos posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to LondonDad [ 5h, 5d ]
LondonDad raises (2653) to 2653
LondonDad is all-In.
JuanLopezjr folds.
rami32 folds.
pablodelaos calls (1543)
pablodelaos is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, Ah, Td ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2d ]
Creating Main Pot with $4336 with pablodelaos
Creating Side Pot 1 with $610 with LondonDad
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4336 | Side Pot 1: 610
Board: [ Qc Ah Td 6s 2d ]
LondonDad balance 610, bet 2653, collected 610, lost -2043 [ 5h 5d ] [ a pair of fives -- Ah,Qc,Td,5h,5d ]
JuanLopezjr balance 2636, didn't bet (folded)
rami32 balance 2418, lost 250 (folded)
pablodelaos balance 4336, bet 2043, collected 4336, net +2293 [ 6h 7c ] [ a pair of sixes -- Ah,Qc,Td,6h,6s ]

sweetjimmi

Just unlucky. You need to pick a hand and play and so did the big blind. You ended up being a small favourite but regardless you need to move with your next hand.

How come every one is so low on chips? Is this a turbo of some sort?

vinsanity

Not Turbo but a Party SnG so some might consider that a turbo.

ScottyZ

I think moving all-in with the 55 is fine here. Mainly because the tournament is, as you said, a crapshoot at this point.

The reason it may not be so obvious whether ot play this hand all-in or not is that we must realize that the BB (if he is a good player) is quite likely to call you with any two cards here, since he is offered 2 to 1 from the pot. You probably have zero fold equity here against the big blind in particular, but that doesn't necessarily mean you don't like getting all-in right away with a hand like 55. There are still two other players in the hand that you would like to see fold.

From *your* point of view, you're getting slightly over 1-1 yourself versus a random hand in the BB. If the other two fold, you're likely getting about 1-1 in a 1-1 race situation. "Go banana!"

(In reality you're a little better off than the rounded off figure of 1-1.)

This is probably a slim +EV play for both of you, assuming the 67o does not know what your hand is. (This EV comes from the dead money in the SB, assuming the 2 other players fold.) Being in crapshoot mode, neither one of you should mind this.

So, the BB calling here with 67o isn't nearly ridiculous as it may appear to be at first glance. I can't say I'm a fan of a blind structure where a slightly below average stack is probably right to call all-in from the BB with a hand like 67o.

ScottyZ

vinsanity

Scotty, not sure I understand, how is the BB getting 2 to 1 odds. he's calling 1500 to win 2250. And we had been like this for a couple levels with mostly blind stealing and shortstacks staying in on their allins so the structure wasn't that bad and there was some play. just a pretty tight table.

ScottyZ

vinsanity wrote:

Scotty, not sure I understand, how is the BB getting 2 to 1 odds. he's calling 1500 to win 2250.

Money that the BB can win = 2043 from you + 250 in the SB + 500 in the BB = 2793

(Don't forget that the big blind itself is now part of the pot.)

To call = 1543

Pot odds are 2793 to 1543 which reduces to 1.8 to 1.

ScottyZ

vinsanity

ah, got it. thx scotty