Poll: What's a 3bet?

g2g2
in Poker Strategy
You are UTG. Blinds are 10/20. You raise to 60. UTG+1 reraises to 180.

Is UTG+1's reraise to 180 a 2bet or a 3bet?

/g2

Comments

  • Davis08Davis08
    i think its a 3bet?
    when you make it 3x the prior bet?
  • g2g2
    Davis08 wrote: »
    i think its a 3bet?
    when you make it 3x the prior bet?
    "2bet", "3bet" etc has nothing to do with the sizes, it has to do with how many bets/raises there have been.

    /g2
  • g2g2
    three-bet
    (v) raise a raise, that is put in the third bet; often followed by the name of a person. "He opened, I raised, and he three-bet me." "I opened, Sue raised, and Willie three-bet the pot."
    I guess the terminology applies more to limit than no-limit.

    However, in no-limit the first bet is just a "bet", not a raise. Right?

    So in this case UTG+1 is not "raising a raise". I.e. he's only 2betting.

    /g2
  • Davis08Davis08
    i think it may be understood differently in no limit? maybe ur right tho
  • blackmagiczblackmagicz
    The original 3 bet is in limit when there is a raise then re-raise (as in limit usually its a 4 bet cap)

    The 3 bet term is now being used widely in NL to describe a raise (most online instructional sites use this terminology)

    In NL a 3 bet is 3x the original bet

    In limit a 3bet is 2 additional bets on top of the original bet.
  • Davis08Davis08
    blackmagicz wrote: »
    The original 3 bet is in limit when there is a raise then re-raise (as in limit usually its a 4 bet cap)

    The 3 bet term is now being used widely in NL to describe a raise (most online instructional sites use this terminology)

    In NL a 3 bet is 3x the original bet

    In limit a 3bet is 2 additional bets on top of the original bet.
    can we all be friends now
  • actyperactyper
    g2 wrote: »
    However, in no-limit the first bet is just a "bet", not a raise. Right?

    Preflop there is no such thing as a bet, only raises in any game. Therefore the 3bet is the reraise. (1st bet is the BB, 2nd bet is the raise)
  • SirWattsSirWatts
    A 3-bet is a reraise, so your example is a 3-bet (the big blind counts as the first bet). Terminology comes from limit originally where it's more intuitive.
  • BBC ZBBC Z
    hahahahaha
  • blackmagiczblackmagicz
    Davis08 wrote: »
    can we all be friends now

    For sure just not at the poker table ;)

    HAHAHAHA
  • g2g2
    Hmmm guess I always misunderstood the terminology.

    My fave response so far is BBC Z's :)

    /g2
  • 13CARDS13CARDS
    You are UTG. Blinds are 10/20. You raise...and are re-raised.

    LIMIT GAME
    Re-raiser: "I three-bet it" (Binding!! Raised from 40 to 60.)

    NO LIMIT
    Re-raiser: "I three-bet it" (Not binding!! Cannot be assumed to be a raise or re-raise and does not include an amount.)


    Is the [re-]raise...a 2bet or a 3bet?
  • compueasecompuease Admin
    I kinda go along with 13Cards here (I think)... It is my understanding that the term, 2 bet, 3 bet, apply only to Structured Limit, not NL. My way of thinking and ALL I have ever heard playing Casino NL in Niagara, Vegas or Atlantic City is raise or re-raise or re-raise again (This last raise means AA or KK, lol). If we were trying to retrofit the term 2 bet or 3 bet into NL to me a 2 bet would be the 1st raise, a 3 bet the 2nd raise.. But that's just me...
  • cadillaccadillac
    If we are trying to re-invent the wheel here than please....go ahead and debate this. If you are trying to understand proper terminology for either limit or no-limit games here it is:

    Pre-flop: BB is the first bet. A raise is the 2nd. re-raise is the 3rd.
  • ChuckielandChuckieland
    cadillac wrote: »
    Pre-flop: BB is the first bet. A raise is the 2nd. re-raise is the 3rd.
    This is my understanding as well.
    even if it's wrong,
    it is CORRECT now, because majority win.
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