I don't get it
This is my first post other than saying hi so take it easy on me.
In the last month or so I have seen a lot and i mean a lot of players limping or calling with high PP's. Every session I'll see it at least once sometimes 3 or 4 times. I don't get it and was wondering if someone can tell me if this is a new form of strategy or just really dumb players. If it's strategy it doesn't seem to be working from what i've seen.
In the last month or so I have seen a lot and i mean a lot of players limping or calling with high PP's. Every session I'll see it at least once sometimes 3 or 4 times. I don't get it and was wondering if someone can tell me if this is a new form of strategy or just really dumb players. If it's strategy it doesn't seem to be working from what i've seen.
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lot's limpers, and lot calling mean lots customer
it's cheap for you to see drawing hand. and you always get customer with big hand.
as for limp and reraise. that work for 10NL
that is just too transparent, and scream AA.
you do want to make more money with your AA?
Every word in this post, even the ones that don't specifically reference poker is just completely ridiculous.
i seriously though that passive table with lots limper are good table to play on.
am i wrong?
as for AA...that's personal preference.
i almost definely fold when someone limp EP and 3bet into me.
EDIT: I reread OP's msg
i read high VP, but now is high PP now.....yes, i can't read.
never mind
I play limit cash games but also no limit sng's and mtt's. I've seen this play in all 3 with growing regularity whether the table is passive or aggressive. It's not like they check raise or raise on the turn. If there has been no betting they might bet the river. I have been trapped by this a few times by betting the turn and getting called down. But i know too that i have outdrawn some too, either they show their cards or make a comment like aces never win for me. I'd just like someone who does this to reason it out for me cuz i just don't get it. Even in an aggressive game it's good to get money into the pot with these hands, no??
I can see that in limit maybe you can make a case that villians always have the pot odds to call but my poker tracker stats tell me I win 76% with aces so get as much in the middle as possible and try to scare off a few chasers in the process. Very rarely in the games I play do you take down the blinds with a raise. So tell me how are you ahead by allowing 4 other players to draw out on you.
Oh oh I think I'm building to a rant here lol.
I have read poker and the power of zen so oooooooooohhhhhhhhhhmmmmm.
End of rant.
I don't know why people will do that.. I have heard people say "I never raise pre-flop because that just builds the pot for when my aces are cracked", I know that I'll call 'smaller' pocket pairs when I play 2/5 Limit at the casino hoping to hit a set because invariably my 6's run up against a AQ9 flop...
But the big pairs, the only way you can get ANYONE to lay down anything in 2/5 Limit (sometimes) is to make it as expensive as possible and that usually doesn't deter a person pre-flop or on the flop. The turn is when a check-raise might work, it at least forces someone to take notice
I also laugh inside my mind when people insist you must slowplay a set, no matter flop texture. Then they're outdrawn & in disbelief. How could they not see potential flush or straight draws is beyond me.
Flop texture as you call it, is important. I was playing in a cash game 1/2 no limit, there was a raise to 20 and call before me I had pocket 10's. The flop 10s,8s,2s....what would have done....The one guy goes all in for 250 the other guy calls for 75 allin, I had just over 600 at the time, so I decide to call the 250, spade hits the river and I lose to pocket A's ( he obviously had the ace of spades) I had put them both on pocket pairs preflop, I hit the flop but got burned on the river. If someone is on a draw after the flop, yes I agree you can try and take them off the hand, but with so many people watching poker on tv, and using implied odds, and so on, it is important to not get carried away with your set, because alot of players don't care and don't mind chasing.
If you have the best hand, you should want more $ in the pot. If you flop a set & insist on flat calling the whole way & the other guy outdraws you, you have no 1 to blame & shouldn't be complaining about luck. That's what I'm talking about. All the above doesn't relate to you (toronto), in the above, "you" refers to a hypothetical person who flopped a set.
I'm not talking about overplaying a set, I'm talking about "oh, I flopped a set so I'll trap by check-calling until the river" mentality & "I'll ignore the board's texture & assume a set can't be outdrawn", then "OMG, I have the worst luck, how could my set get outdrawn?"
BINGO. Well said.
I don't get the point of this post. Everyone is allin, you are the fav by far so obv you call. You can't play it any other way.