Did I play this too tight?
I went with the "general rule" of you check down to the river... but I wonder after the bet of 1k which obiviously showed he didn't had the queen... should I raise there and try to make more money or it's too risky?
(Note... I didn't raise PF ... was it a chicken move as well?)
PokerStars Game #15715305452: Tournament #79528377, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2008/03/03 - 15:52:08 (ET)
Table '79528377 17' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: akablufa (36166 in chips)
Seat 2: InsaneGuy (13599 in chips)
Seat 3: 00DudeDuy00 (22914 in chips)
Seat 5: Bo_Jook (15177 in chips)
Seat 6: RainerW70 (8665 in chips)
Seat 8: thefortunate (32490 in chips)
Seat 9: Sthil123 (3685 in chips)
akablufa: posts the ante 100
InsaneGuy: posts the ante 100
00DudeDuy00: posts the ante 100
Bo_Jook: posts the ante 100
RainerW70: posts the ante 100
thefortunate: posts the ante 100
Sthil123: posts the ante 100
InsaneGuy: posts small blind 500
00DudeDuy00: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to InsaneGuy [Jd Js]
Bo_Jook: folds
RainerW70: folds
thefortunate: folds
Sthil123: raises 2585 to 3585 and is all-in
akablufa: calls 3585
InsaneGuy: calls 3085
00DudeDuy00: calls 2585
*** FLOP *** [2h 3d 9h]
InsaneGuy: checks
00DudeDuy00: checks
akablufa: checks
*** TURN *** [2h 3d 9h] [Qd]
InsaneGuy: checks
00DudeDuy00: checks
akablufa: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 3d 9h Qd] [Qs]
InsaneGuy: checks
00DudeDuy00: bets 1000
akablufa: calls 1000
InsaneGuy: calls 1000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
00DudeDuy00: shows [Ad 9c] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
akablufa: mucks hand
InsaneGuy: shows [Jd Js] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
InsaneGuy collected 3000 from side pot
Sthil123: mucks hand
InsaneGuy collected 15040 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18040 Main pot 15040. Side pot 3000. | Rake 0
Board [2h 3d 9h Qd Qs]
Seat 1: akablufa (button) mucked [7d 7s]
Seat 2: InsaneGuy (small blind) showed [Jd Js] and won (18040) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 3: 00DudeDuy00 (big blind) showed [Ad 9c] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 5: Bo_Jook folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: RainerW70 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: thefortunate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Sthil123 mucked [6c As]
(Note... I didn't raise PF ... was it a chicken move as well?)
PokerStars Game #15715305452: Tournament #79528377, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2008/03/03 - 15:52:08 (ET)
Table '79528377 17' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: akablufa (36166 in chips)
Seat 2: InsaneGuy (13599 in chips)
Seat 3: 00DudeDuy00 (22914 in chips)
Seat 5: Bo_Jook (15177 in chips)
Seat 6: RainerW70 (8665 in chips)
Seat 8: thefortunate (32490 in chips)
Seat 9: Sthil123 (3685 in chips)
akablufa: posts the ante 100
InsaneGuy: posts the ante 100
00DudeDuy00: posts the ante 100
Bo_Jook: posts the ante 100
RainerW70: posts the ante 100
thefortunate: posts the ante 100
Sthil123: posts the ante 100
InsaneGuy: posts small blind 500
00DudeDuy00: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to InsaneGuy [Jd Js]
Bo_Jook: folds
RainerW70: folds
thefortunate: folds
Sthil123: raises 2585 to 3585 and is all-in
akablufa: calls 3585
InsaneGuy: calls 3085
00DudeDuy00: calls 2585
*** FLOP *** [2h 3d 9h]
InsaneGuy: checks
00DudeDuy00: checks
akablufa: checks
*** TURN *** [2h 3d 9h] [Qd]
InsaneGuy: checks
00DudeDuy00: checks
akablufa: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 3d 9h Qd] [Qs]
InsaneGuy: checks
00DudeDuy00: bets 1000
akablufa: calls 1000
InsaneGuy: calls 1000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
00DudeDuy00: shows [Ad 9c] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
akablufa: mucks hand
InsaneGuy: shows [Jd Js] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
InsaneGuy collected 3000 from side pot
Sthil123: mucks hand
InsaneGuy collected 15040 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18040 Main pot 15040. Side pot 3000. | Rake 0
Board [2h 3d 9h Qd Qs]
Seat 1: akablufa (button) mucked [7d 7s]
Seat 2: InsaneGuy (small blind) showed [Jd Js] and won (18040) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 3: 00DudeDuy00 (big blind) showed [Ad 9c] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 5: Bo_Jook folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: RainerW70 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: thefortunate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Sthil123 mucked [6c As]
Comments
Bet the flop dude, you've got a very vulnerable overpair. Why are you letting villian hit a Q+ to take the pot?
And WHY doesn't 00Dude have the queen? It looks like a cheap-o trips value bet.
You need to be way more aggressive.
Reshove preflop possibly?
It's often my problem I don't play aggressive enough and I become a checkbot... oh well...
Thanks for the advise I'll remember that !
You should not feel obliged to check to the river at this point in the tournament (I am assuming that this is not at the bubble or on the final table). You should have been more aggressive preflop or on the flop. I would say you were very lucky to be playing against such bad players in this pot.
Actually it is the checking to the river thing that is something that you do when you are close the bubble or at the final table of a multi-table tournament. The other point here is that you don't really want to be in a multi-way pot to the river with pocket jacks. That just means you are more likely to have all three overcards out against you and/or multiple sets that can be hit.