Who should show???
I understand that when a player calls my bet or raise, I should show first.
so I am wondering.....
Player A Bets the river.
Player B Calls and shows his cards.
Player A then realizes that he lost the hand and mucks.
Can Player B ask to see Player A's cards? or can anyone at the table ask to see Player A's cards.\?
so I am wondering.....
Player A Bets the river.
Player B Calls and shows his cards.
Player A then realizes that he lost the hand and mucks.
Can Player B ask to see Player A's cards? or can anyone at the table ask to see Player A's cards.\?
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I don't necessarily request it of the player though unless I have reason to believe he isn't playing ethically, however I do remember the one time I was in the EdgeWater Casino in Vancouver, I was at a 3/6 limit game and hit a set of kings on the flop, and one player kept raising/re raising all the way to the river. He only called my capped bet on the river, I showed my set of kings and he mucked, and almost immediately the guy on my right requested to see his hand. The dealer flipped over pocket threes and he had hit his set on the flop as well. Reason being that both myself and this other guy had never been there before and they just wanted reassurance that we weren't colluding in any way. Considering the pov of the other regulars, I didn't mind the request.
Though the rules state that any player may request to see a hand at showdown. ( Rule at my home casino, but may not be the same for other places )
Some higher-level players consider it very bad etiquette to request to see a losing hand. Most players don't mind their called hand being requested to be shown, but a few go on major tilt, like Phil "Poker Brat" Hellmuth.
According to most places I've asked about this at (and 2+2) the last person to show aggression 'has' to show first. So the bettor, not the caller. Is it different where you play?
But that's just me... no offense!
Mark
And since this is your area of expertise, not responding is kinda rude...
It'd be like me not responding to someone asking a question about masturbation!
Mark
How much is too much? Twice? Three times? When I feel a burning sensation?
Johnnie.
ps..I've always played aggressor shows...ie...caller waits for their turn to show.
and only player in hand can request to see muck card
I always show when I get called.
I am just asking because a lot of the times the caller shows and then the player with the initial bet mucks his cards, and if I was in the hand but folded before the showdown, I still want to see the bettors cards after he was called.
Usually when I call someone at the end, I wait for them to show first as I paid to see what he has.
Technically, the player who is supposed to show first is the player who bet first (or checked first on a checked river). Unfortunately, too many players waste time in refusing to show any of their cards, even when they have the nuts. It goes like this:
Player A: What do you have?
Player B: What do YOU have?
A: I have a pair.
B: Which pair?
:
:rolleyes:
Player A finally shows one card showing the top pair.
Player B shows one card, slow rolling
13CARDS: "It takes two cards to win, you *&^%$#@! idiots." Mucks both hands.
(Please nobody yell at me!
It is bad etiquette to ask to see a hand.
If it were up to me (as it should be
I agree... but in this case it looks like the caller acted out of turn, then wanted the other person to show.
Definitely... I don't see how the person could even argue otherwise.
Player B has called, but what he should of done was wait for Player A to show his cards before turning his own cards over. By Player B turning his cards over first, he is giving Player A the chance to muck if he has lost the pot, as Player A he is now acting last. I a way, player B is acting out of turn, and is now paying the price by not being able to see player A's cards
But yes the last person to bet is the first to show. But in this scenerio, the caller decided to open his hand first, giving the other guy a chance to muck without having to show. Some players arent quick enough to ask to see my cards, cause they are already there mixed up in the muck by the time the dealer hears their request.
That's what I thought with the OP. If you act out of turn, you blew your chance for the other person to show. Too bad you!