Value Bet River?
Been thinking about this hand, and not sure if its a spot for a bet.
2/5 NL game at Fallsview. First orbit at the table, probably the 5th hand or so. Players are unknown and table has been generally tight passive in the hands I've observed.
Hero in the CO, a limper in UTG+2 and hero raises to $20 with A10s in the CO. SB and UTG+2 calls.
Flop 7 3 2 rainbow is checked around. Turn is a 10 which also puts 2 clubs on board..checked to hero who fires $40 and called both ways.
River brings an off-suit 6. TPTK against 2 unknown players on a relative but not exactly dry pot for a limper/blind...do you bet this river?
2/5 NL game at Fallsview. First orbit at the table, probably the 5th hand or so. Players are unknown and table has been generally tight passive in the hands I've observed.
Hero in the CO, a limper in UTG+2 and hero raises to $20 with A10s in the CO. SB and UTG+2 calls.
Flop 7 3 2 rainbow is checked around. Turn is a 10 which also puts 2 clubs on board..checked to hero who fires $40 and called both ways.
River brings an off-suit 6. TPTK against 2 unknown players on a relative but not exactly dry pot for a limper/blind...do you bet this river?
Comments
Do you think either are capable of calling the $20. preflop with either 8,9 or 4,5? If so they made the str8 on the river, now if i was one of them I would have led out on the river but you never know... Check behind is my vote given no other reads...
edit: just had another look at your post, were you in the BB or the cutoff? Im confused, two Heros?
Stack sizes would be helpfull.
45 is the only draw that got there so I don't think that is very likely. This is a two pair kind of board so if you value bet I don't think you can call a shove if it is big.
88, 99, and weaker T may call a value bet if you make it small enough. I like about 1/2 pot on the river in this spot.
Both players have hero covered...I don't think there was a single player with less than max buy-in except for myself since I just sat down.
do you have that i will bet that river if check to me image?
also, the villian, callingstation or fish, good player?
against callingstation and good player, i would value bet this river.
against a fish, who like to check with made hand. i'll check behind
5th hand.
No real reads or image.
Check behind. You really have no read on the table. The check call by the tight passive suggest over pair (possibly set). Could also have been chasing with an Ace, but atleast you can get some information by checking behind.
89 as well.
I prob just check it down.
Yah but what is your image? ARe you LuckBok the crazy asian?
Why did you not bet the flop? You want to take this pot down and here is your chance. A ~$45 bet should be good, you also have position and no one
knows anything about you.
If you get called, and hit on the turn then you look for pot control. As you did hit, I don't mind checking the turn ( as your a little ahead or way behind) and if checked to on the river I would want to value bet.
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Probably, but I would feel sick about a reraise here. As played your pretty passive and are going to get a call from JT, QT, KT, maybe 99 so a value bet isnt horrible, but if you have to fold to a reraise it would suck.
If you put the bet out there first, they'll probably just call with hands you beat and raise hands you lose to, making your decision easier.
Not sure I follow BBC, he's the CO and last to act on the river. BB and UTG+2 are the only ones in the pot.
I'm pretty sure hes talking about the bet on the turn.
After two river checks, I bet folding to a raise.
You would have to call a raise since your line looks like, errr SCREAMS, air. So the majority of the times you get raised here it doesn't mean you're beat. Personally, I would value bet this and keep a sharp eye on my opponents looking for any tell I can get.
I disagree with "the only way I see you getting called is if you are beat". Since your line looks so aired out you're probably getting called by any 10 from the first opponent to act, and any pair from the other opponent.
/g2
The big problem with a suck bet is that it looks weak ... and it is weak.
Therefore is defines your hand and opens you up to getting bluffed.
Here it works best if you opponents are dumb as stumps. If they take it for a post oak bluff ... all the better.
So you might want to check to see if there is a puddle of drool on the floor near your opponents before you try a small suck bet.
i would check that river
reason: not many hand you can call a river bet, that you can beat.
1) if you bet, and got raised, there is no need to invest that much.
2) if you bet, weaker hand fold,
3) checking it, also induce bluff by weaker hand that you can beat.
as how much a river bet to call
you have to work out your pot odds
hand you beat
hand beat you
how many time you have to be good here to justify a river call.
Anyhow, I value bet vs a typical tight/passive field in this spot..roughly $60 should do here. The way 2/5 plays you are getting called by any ten here and your opponents are easily holding kt/qt/jt/t9 often enough to make it a solid play.