I did it again....
I always tell myself not to get it all in on a draw early in a tourny, but there I go doing it again. This time it worked pretty well for me, and I think I was justified in doing it this time. I had a ton of outs against pretty much any hand the villain had.
I put him on AQ rather than JQ.
Thoughts?
Full Tilt Poker Game #4948305472: The Fifty-Fifty (37065157), Table 92 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:27:20 ET - 2008/01/21
Seat 1: menace3 (1,540)
Seat 2: lidrum5 (3,540)
Seat 3: DemecoRyans (4,946)
Seat 4: 4nk8 (5,180)
Seat 5: TLoMoney (3,815)
Seat 6: goonis420 (1,750)
Seat 7: Xwisit (3,507)
Seat 8: Dahladino (2,390)
Seat 9: Suck Out Tramp (6,840)
lidrum5 posts the small blind of 30
DemecoRyans posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xwisit [9c Tc]
4nk8 has 15 seconds left to act
4nk8 calls 60
TLoMoney folds
goonis420 folds
Xwisit calls 60
Dahladino folds
Suck Out Tramp folds
menace3 folds
lidrum5 folds
DemecoRyans checks
*** FLOP *** [4c Jc Qh]
DemecoRyans checks
4nk8 checks
Xwisit bets 210
DemecoRyans has 15 seconds left to act
DemecoRyans calls 210
4nk8 raises to 1,050
Xwisit has 15 seconds left to act
Xwisit raises to 3,447, and is all in
DemecoRyans has 15 seconds left to act
DemecoRyans folds
4nk8 calls 2,397
Xwisit shows [9c Tc]
4nk8 shows [Qs Jh]
*** TURN *** [4c Jc Qh] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [4c Jc Qh Ts] [Ac]
Xwisit shows a flush, Ace high
4nk8 shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
Xwisit wins the pot (7,314) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,314 | Rake 0
Board: [4c Jc Qh Ts Ac]
Seat 1: menace3 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: lidrum5 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: DemecoRyans (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: 4nk8 showed [Qs Jh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 5: TLoMoney didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: goonis420 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Xwisit showed [9c Tc] and won (7,314) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 8: Dahladino didn't bet (folded)
I put him on AQ rather than JQ.
Thoughts?
Full Tilt Poker Game #4948305472: The Fifty-Fifty (37065157), Table 92 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:27:20 ET - 2008/01/21
Seat 1: menace3 (1,540)
Seat 2: lidrum5 (3,540)
Seat 3: DemecoRyans (4,946)
Seat 4: 4nk8 (5,180)
Seat 5: TLoMoney (3,815)
Seat 6: goonis420 (1,750)
Seat 7: Xwisit (3,507)
Seat 8: Dahladino (2,390)
Seat 9: Suck Out Tramp (6,840)
lidrum5 posts the small blind of 30
DemecoRyans posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xwisit [9c Tc]
4nk8 has 15 seconds left to act
4nk8 calls 60
TLoMoney folds
goonis420 folds
Xwisit calls 60
Dahladino folds
Suck Out Tramp folds
menace3 folds
lidrum5 folds
DemecoRyans checks
*** FLOP *** [4c Jc Qh]
DemecoRyans checks
4nk8 checks
Xwisit bets 210
DemecoRyans has 15 seconds left to act
DemecoRyans calls 210
4nk8 raises to 1,050
Xwisit has 15 seconds left to act
Xwisit raises to 3,447, and is all in
DemecoRyans has 15 seconds left to act
DemecoRyans folds
4nk8 calls 2,397
Xwisit shows [9c Tc]
4nk8 shows [Qs Jh]
*** TURN *** [4c Jc Qh] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [4c Jc Qh Ts] [Ac]
Xwisit shows a flush, Ace high
4nk8 shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
Xwisit wins the pot (7,314) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,314 | Rake 0
Board: [4c Jc Qh Ts Ac]
Seat 1: menace3 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: lidrum5 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: DemecoRyans (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: 4nk8 showed [Qs Jh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 5: TLoMoney didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: goonis420 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Xwisit showed [9c Tc] and won (7,314) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 8: Dahladino didn't bet (folded)
Comments
You're not far behind much else.
I fold for the following reasons:
You got a caller and a raise on the flop fro your EP bet.
You are not drawing to the nut flush.
3 of your outs leaved you with the donkey end of the str8.
It's still early. Why race when you don't have to.
Not an overly strong draw.
See post above.
Open ended straight draw and a flush draw... can't get much stronger than that.
If you are gonna play T9s and fold on this flop you shouldn't play the hand in the first place.
Just don't believe at this point it's really worth it.
This is the piece I don't get.. Why raise that flop that much with a draw? Why not call, see the turn and go from there. You know he's got a hand of some sort, you currently have Q high. You know you are pretty much always behind and drawing, you don't have to put any more in the pot at that point. Perhaps also bring the third player with you and if the turn is favourable, then go all-in (drawing hands like this like lots of players)
I hate this mentality of "OMG PUSH" everytime you get a draw or AA.. Yes, you have the potential of doubling up against a lesser hand, but a draw just gives you high card if it doesn't hit, and AA's are only one pair and usesless against SOO many other hands.
Maybe I'm wrong and I have to play against it so much that I tend to get sucked into it as well, but I just don't like the fact that there is so much information you don't have, and you are risking your entire tournament on Qhigh at this point.
on a side note, all my chips are in this pot in most tournies. Tournies with good structure such as this Fifty Fifty I'd have 2nd thoughts.