Anybody Play Differently Here?

Young GrimmYoung Grimm
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0.5/1 LHE Pokerstars 6 max

cutoff calls, I call on Button with 77 (my VPIP is around 28% with around 80k hands at this level)
SB raises, BB re-raises, cutoff calls 2 so I call to see a flop (both SB and BB have been maniacs so I wasn't super-scared of a cap as both had raised all the way through with nothing in previous hands, cutoff called down with anything... I figured I probably had the best hand at this point)

flop comes 979 rainbow SB bets, BB raises, cutoff calls 2 I call 2,
turn is a 4 but puts 2 spades on board
SB bets, BB raises, cutoff calls I re-raise everybody calls
river J doesn't complete the flush SB bets, BB raises, cutoff folds, I re-raise, SB re-raises BB calls I call:

they roll over



















wait for it
















SB-J9 for the bigger fullhouse

BB-KK

Anybody do things differently? Where and why?

This isn't meant to be a bad-beat story, I understand variance etc. Just wondered if I should have been just calling down at any point?

Thanks.

Comments

  • HobbesHobbes
    From your description, I don't do anything different.

    You are only losing to JJ/J9/99 and baring a perfect read, I get as much as I can in there.
  • m_dolensm_dolens
    Hobbes wrote: »
    From your description, I don't do anything different.

    You are only losing to JJ/J9/99 and baring a perfect read, I get as much as I can in there.

    agreed. raise, reraise etc. because there were very few hands that could beat you. sadly, J9 was probably not going to fold to anything (especially in limit HE). call it variance or bad luck, but i think you played it fine.
  • actyperactyper
    PF I raise. In limit SH I hardly hardly ever call anything unless I'm in the blinds, its either raise or fold for me. But thats the way I play limit.
  • ReefAquariumReefAquarium
    Looks like you played fine!
  • WinPokerTodayWinPokerToday
    I couldn't fault your play, especially since you were playing with maniacs.

    Obviously the BB was a super donk with his KK's, If I was him, I would have folded them on the turn, after you reraised and SB called... how could he not put someone on having a 9 in their hand.
  • ScoobyDScoobyD
    Raise preflop, and 3 bet the flop (You've aren't going to lose BB or CO here, get the bets in). Cold calling 2 just makes it look like you're slowplaying at least a 9 there, or on some wacky draw, don't get cute in big pots when you can just jam the flop with everyone in there, give the maniacs a chance to cap it.
  • westside8westside8
    6 max, raise preflop. Bet/raise every street post-flop. OP/any 9/OESD/FD or whatever won't be going away. Get as much money in as possible.
  • BBC ZBBC Z
    Just wondered if I should have been just calling down at any point?

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    Anyway, with a pocket pair preflop in 6 max LHE, you need to raise. You tell us your VPIP, but whats your PFR%?

    I couldn't fault your play, especially since you were playing with maniacs.

    Obviously the BB was a super donk with his KK's, If I was him, I would have folded them on the turn, after you reraised and SB called... how could he not put someone on having a 9 in their hand.

    It's 6 max and aggression levels are generally high. He's really only behind to a 9 which is unlikely.

    Raise preflop, and 3 bet the flop (You've aren't going to lose BB or CO here, get the bets in). Cold calling 2 just makes it look like you're slowplaying at least a 9 there, or on some wacky draw, don't get cute in big pots when you can just jam the flop with everyone in there, give the maniacs a chance to cap it.

    Solid.
  • Young GrimmYoung Grimm
    Thanks for all the feedback so far. BBC Z, my PFR is just under 10% (9.63)
  • ScoobyDScoobyD
    Thanks for all the feedback so far. BBC Z, my PFR is just under 10% (9.63)

    Not that stats are everything, but 28/10 seems pretty loose-passive to me for 6 max. What type of hands are you open-limping/overlimping/coldcalling/open-raising/3 betting?

    You're limping close to 2/3 of the hands you're going to play? Why? You have less opponents, and typically less implied odds to play marginal holdings (especially in EP when you're often going to face a raise behind you).

    I'm guessing you're limping stuff like 22-66, Axs, suited connectors, 2 broadway in EP? Overlimping stuff like 65s behind one limper? Cold calling with 55/ATo/A9s vs a MP open raise? (Hint: these are the situations you should often be looking to 3 bet or fold). Suited connectors/small pairs/suited aces are worth less in 6 max. Hands like KJo, ATo, 77, are worth more.

    My numbers are more along the lines of 24/17 preflop, but I'm a bit of a nit.
  • Young GrimmYoung Grimm
    Yeah your guess is pretty close to bang on, Scoob. More stuff for me to think about.
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