Deperate -- Range?
Hi,
I was shortstacked in a tournament (18k left average was over 50k with blinds at 1k-2k)
I had A3s and pushed but as soon as I did I had that bad feeling that it was a stupid move. (And I was right)
Question is... what hand is the best "desperate" hand?
Is 89s or even 67s better than just an ace ?
I was shortstacked in a tournament (18k left average was over 50k with blinds at 1k-2k)
I had A3s and pushed but as soon as I did I had that bad feeling that it was a stupid move. (And I was right)
Question is... what hand is the best "desperate" hand?
Is 89s or even 67s better than just an ace ?
Comments
Maybe put the HH up?
But in VERY broad terms, shoving with a connecting hand is better than shoving with Ax. This, is again very very broad as Ax does have more showdown value if you're shoving from button and are called by broadway cards blah blah blah. As with connecting cards, you are less likely to dominated by hands that do call you, and the few extra % you gain each time you get called make up for alot equity in the long run.
Depends on position, in LP I don't mind the shove.
and I thought my math was bad
I was JUST moved from another table so I had no read and they had no read either plus it was mostly players I've never played with before so I couldn't really tell.
How it happended is :
(Now that I remember blinds we're actually 1.5k - 3k) since (first mistake here!!) I limped for 3k (I was at 18k so now down to 15)
BB - Big stacks
Raises to 6k, everyone folds to me and I re-raised all in, he called, had AKs and won with high card + kicker.
Basicly that's how it went out...
I was just wondering how bad of a move it was, should I have waited a little more for a better hand ?
/thread
P.S. You played this terrible. Limp re-raising with A3 is lighting money on fire in this spot.
With Love,
Caddy
If so give me a link.
But yea... the actual question was more in the lines of what do you need, when desperate, to go all-in... what's the less dumb play.
Here you go
Shoving this hand from late position in an unopened pot would not be terrible.
You have 6BB so the only move you have is All-In. Anything other than All-In is very bad unless you have AA and you think someone may give you action.
1. Consider your stack size/position/first in vigorish/table persona/table-tightness.
2. Calculate your M. Add 10 times the Ante to the big + small blind. In this case 1M=3K+1.5K=4.5K. Your M=18/4.5=about 4.
3. If your M>20 play normal.
4. If your 10<M<20, devalue small pairs and suited connectors.
5. If your 5<M<10, Further devalue small pairs and suited connectors. You're getting to push or fold preflop territory.
6. M<5 You must push or fold preflop. If nobody has limped or raised into the pot you can push in with all but the worst hands. Hands like Q5o are plenty big enough to push all in if nobody has limped or raised the pot.
In your specific situation M=4 I'd push with first in vigorish with any pair, any A, any K, Q5o+, J8o+ any two suited and lots of worse hands.
Shoulda went all in, result would have been the same but I would have felt better about it !
You never mentioned it was a live tourney until now.
But yes, given the circumstances..easy shove. Limping in an unopened pot in LP wit an ace is the worst thing you can do here...even worse than folding.
Not just in this situation but in many many situation.
I don't know why... I think I'm scared that someone will re-raise me and I'll be commited to the pot no matter what happens.
Is there a cure for that ?
Get yourself a set of these...