Fallsview 1/2NL $200 max?

This past weekend I had a quick conversation with one of the pit bosses and he mentioned a possible 200 max 1/2 NL game being spread starting Monday (yesterday). Can 13cards or Fallsview elaborate on this please? Mainly has this happened and what is the session fee structure now for all the games? Has anyone by any chance played it and what did you think?

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  • FCR is now offering $1-$2 NL with a buyin of $100 - $200 with a $5/half hour session fee (in addition to the regular $1-$2 NL $40-$100 game).

    As well, $2-$5 NL buyin has been changed to $100-$300 (making it a MUCH better game).

    From now on, Fallsview (the member) will not be replying to questions regarding FCR. He may continue to lurk/post on here, however.
  • Good job on giving players here what they want, you listened!
  • This is a definite improvement. Some of my friends that have come in the past to play 1/2 absolutely hate the 100 buyin.

    Now if you can do something about the # of tables I might show up again...
  • Thx for the reply 13cards. Glad that the session fee stayed the same. I will probably be checking it out tonight.
  • Wow! That is soooo awesome. Great Job!

    I R xcited.

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  • It's nice to see the Ontario games trying to catch up to everywhere else on the planet including Western Canada -- where buy-ins are anywhere from 100bb to 200bb to no cap. 100bb is at least a start.
  • Caddy, that's just sick.
  • 13CARDS wrote: »
    From now on, Fallsview (the member) will not be replying to questions regarding FCR. He may continue to lurk/post on here, however.

    Why will he not be posting?
  • Dead Money wrote: »
    Why will he not be posting?

    He may still post here but he is no longer asociated with Fallsview Casino.
  • 13CARDS wrote: »
    He may still post here but he is no longer asociated with Fallsview Casino.

    sounds like he got canned; I thought he was the poker room manager?
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    sounds like he got canned; I thought he was the poker room manager?

    Not at all. (Yes he was the poker room manager and the TD).

    He is still lurking here so I will leave it up to him to answer any questions; it is not my place to speak about his business.
  • 13CARDS wrote: »
    FCR is now offering $1-$2 NL with a buyin of $100 - $200 with a $5/half hour session fee (in addition to the regular $1-$2 NL $40-$100 game).

    It was there on Christmas eve and the board only showed 1/2 with $40-$100. Is there a separate list for 1/2 $200 max?
    13CARDS wrote: »
    He may still post here but he is no longer asociated with Fallsview Casino.

    He is always welcomed to create and post under a new username.
  • Two words. Simply Awesome!
  • There seems to be a regular turnover for the poker room manager position. I remember a different manager from the Degree Poker broadcasts. What is the name of the new manager?

    Good luck to Fallsview. My guess is that he got an even better position at another casino.
    13CARDS wrote: »
    Yes he was the poker room manager and the TD).
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    There seems to be a regular turnover for the poker room manager position. I remember a different manager from the Degree Poker broadcasts. What is the name of the new manager?

    Good luck to Fallsview. My guess is that he got an even better position at another casino.
    I think he may have obtained an assistants position at Bristol.. :)
  • westside8 wrote: »
    It was there on Christmas eve and the board only showed 1/2 with $40-$100. Is there a separate list for 1/2 $200 max?

    Yes, there are currently two different lists for $1-$2 NL.

    I am actively lobbying to have just one $1-$2 NL game with buyins from $40 - $200. IMHO, this would be better.
  • 13CARDS wrote: »
    Not at all. (Yes he was the poker room manager and the TD).

    He is still lurking here so I will leave it up to him to answer any questions; it is not my place to speak about his business.


    well you brought it up... is he running the casino now and therefore can no longer comment? his helpful and informative posts will be missed.
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    well you brought it up... is he running the casino now and therefore can no longer comment? his helpful and informative posts will be missed.

    Fallsview (the member) is no longer associated in any way with Fallsview (the casino).
  • 13CARDS wrote: »
    Yes, there are currently two different lists for $1-$2 NL.

    Thanks, I'll keep a look out for that next time I'm there after the New Years.
  • 13CARDS wrote: »
    Yes, there are currently two different lists for $1-$2 NL.

    I am actively lobbying to have just one $1-$2 NL game with buyins from $40 - $200. IMHO, this would be better.

    I agree. I have a feeling that the 200 max will only appeal to the better players potentially making the game tougher to beat than the 100 max. If there is only 1 game we get the best of both worlds.

    At the same time, whenever you give the better player an even bigger advantage you run the risk of ruining the game (especially at NL where the edge of a good player over a bad player is already significantly larger then compared to limit lets say). The bad players will lose their money quicker and the games might dry up. Although judging by the waiting lists at Fallsview this might not happen for a while.
  • 13CARDS wrote: »
    Fallsview (the member) is no longer associated in any way with Fallsview (the casino).

    Has he turned to professional poker as his new form of employment?
  • coolblue24 wrote: »
    Has he turned to professional poker as his new form of employment?

    With his skills in $2-$5 Limit.....ummm...most likely NOT!
  • I went by FV and noticed the one 1/2 game they were spreading was $100 min $200 max. Is that the plan going forward or was it only a rare occurance?
  • The buy in choice is good but don't care for low limit session fees. I feel it forces u to play more hands. Let the pot winner pay the rake. Grinders playing premium hands are better off at Casino Niagara or RAMA.
    Good Skill!
  • Just an update. It seems that Casino Niagara has the 200 max buy-in as well! However, I recognized about half the players there were regulars...
  • After I got tired of waiting for my friends to carpool to a Niagara area casino, I finally drove by myself. Unlike the many other people in the waiting list at Fallsview Casino, I was lucky not to wait too long, so I finally got to try the new 2/5 NL with the $300 maximum buy-in. It is not as good as Seneca's $400 maximum, but at least it is 50% higher than before with a maximum of 60 big blinds.

    Unlike Seneca which opens up a table as soon as there are 10 players waiting, I was told by a floor person that Fallsview was restricted to having only 6 tables open. This meant over 50 disappointed players on the waiting lists while there were 10 empty tables missing out on $120/hour revenue.

    Fallsview's 2/5 & 5/5 does have some advantages for me.

    1) Table selection.
    Casino Niagara & Seneca have mostly 1/2 tables, while Fallsview is the place for higher limit games. Of the 6 tables, there was one 2/5, 5/10, 1/2 & three 5/5, so it was good that there were 5 tables that I wanted to play at. At Seneca, usually there is only 1 NL table higher than 1/2, so I am stuck playing in the only 2/5 table, whether the table is good or not.

    2) Game selection.
    You will usually find the best & most successful players at the highest limit tables. At Seneca, sometimes the only "big game" available is the 2/5 table, so the best players in Seneca are all in that table. It is obviously higher EV to play against donkeys instead of a table full of sharks who have won big at Seneca, Turning Stone or multiple WSOP bracelets. :eek: At Fallsview, there is usually 5/10 NL & higher tables going on, so there are more exploitable players in the 2/5 & 5/5 tables.

    3) Session fee can be better than rake!
    While rake is better for tight players in a table that has always 10 players, session fee becomes better as the table becomes shorter. The cost per player remains constant at $12/hour at Fallsview. In short tables with a rake, the amount of money being taken out of each player becomes much more than $12/hour. For example, when there are 6 players left in a 2/5 table at Seneca, I estimate that the average amount of money being taken out of each player is three times higher! (~$4 average rake/hand * ~54 raked hands/hour / 6 players = $36/hour) Obviously, it is much easier to win when there is only $72/hour being taken away from a 6-player table at Fallsview compared to $216+/hour in a raked table.
    This is why most good cardrooms are willing to reduce the rake when the table becomes short enough. For example, I think Seneca reduces the maximum rake to $2 instead of $5 when there are five players or less. If the club or casino you play in is never willing to reduce the rake even though they are raking in 2-3 times as much per hour with the short table, then it is highly -EV to keep playing in that place. You should cash out as soon as the table has become short & try out another cardroom with a session fee or is willing to reduce the rake.

    Conclusion: Playing 2/5 or 5/5 at Fallsview or other casino with $5 maximum rake is much better than playing at any of the clubs that has a rake of $10-$15+. Instead of losing because of the unbeatable $25-$50/hour rake in a club (especially with less than a full table), a player will have a much higher EV at Fallsview with only $12/hour fee. Taking the $5 bus to Fallsview is a good option for those who don't have a car.
    13CARDS wrote: »
    As well, $2-$5 NL buyin has been changed to $100-$300 (making it a MUCH better game).
  • What $5 bus that goes to Fallsview are you speaking of? I'm definitely interested
  • jdAA88 wrote: »
    What $5 bus that goes to Fallsview are you speaking of? I'm definitely interested

    The one I usually take is the one ran by Safeway...various pickup locations throughout GTA, Markham, Richmond Hill, Mississauga.
  • I think there's a whole list of bus services at the Fallsview Casino website. I was asking a regular 2/5+ club player why he doesn't go to the casino more instead of paying 2-4 times the hourly rake at the clubs we know. He said that he would go a lot more to the casino if he had transportation and I remembered that there are a lot of cheap bus services to casinos.
    jdAA88 wrote: »
    What $5 bus that goes to Fallsview are you speaking of? I'm definitely interested
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