Opinion: Bad poker players or players you feel hurt the game
I know who is on my list. Who is on yours?
Criteria: Any player who has limited actual skill at the game of poker and has achieved status strictly based on a lucky session OR any player who personality, look, attitude etc. hurts the game as a whole (non-players perception of it)
My list currently is (in no particular order)
Jamie Gold
Jimmy Fricke
Hevad Khan (though his multi-tabling was impressive)
Jennifer Tilly
will add more as I think of them.
Criteria: Any player who has limited actual skill at the game of poker and has achieved status strictly based on a lucky session OR any player who personality, look, attitude etc. hurts the game as a whole (non-players perception of it)
My list currently is (in no particular order)
Jamie Gold
Jimmy Fricke
Hevad Khan (though his multi-tabling was impressive)
Jennifer Tilly
will add more as I think of them.
Comments
Howard ? ? ? ? Is that you?
total idiot this guy
I don't know why I feel the need to defend Jennifer Tilly, but every time this kind of discussion comes up I do. Clearly Jennifer is not a great poker player. I do think she is one of the better "celebrity" poker players out there. I also think she is not fooling herself and is interested in improving her game. Her biggest problem is that she is constantly put in situations where she is at a disadvantage and they are publicly aired. I wonder how well the average poker player would do at a table that included Phil Ivey and some of the other top players in the world? I definitely don't think that she is bad for the game.
P.S. I know that the standard rebuttal will be a reference to her checking the full house against Patrick Antonius or her ditzy image. I would remind people that she is an Oscar nominated, independently wealthy, seemingly nice woman. I wonder how many of us can claim the same level of success.
Pretend she is an acup and attempt to make the same defence.
I also agree with what you wrote, and I would further that point by suggesting that it is possibly a bit of latent sexism that makes Tilly such a whipping-girl.
We preach table image over and over again, and then want to penalize Tilly for being one of the most effective 'ditz-i' (ditzs looks, wrong..how do you pluralise that word?)
Seriously, my short skirt #s went from 1 to 15 when I started playing poker, my use of slang from 0 to white trash/ conversation. You guys keep buying and we'll keep selling. An edge is an edge.
It is probably not fair to expect that the global poker community and the individual profit-seeking player can exist concurrently in a humanist 'greater good' sense. Presenting a united front of non-degeneracy to the rest of the world is something that I would actively seek where I can- but it feels unreasonable to lay into people like Tilly who are simply playing their strengths.
Vagina's are +EV in live low limit poker
HELLOOOOOOO new forum signature.
/g2
I have never met one that wasn't
pet peeve: double negatives?
On the other hand that's exactly what he is trying to do... make everyone at the table hate him. They will then make more mistakes because they want to take him down.
He jumped up and down like a spoiled brat kid berating the guy who had KK for calling his all in on the flop, when Tony G hit his runner runner perfect for the straight he said "I played it like a set! I played it like a set! Even I thought I had a set, how could you call that?" All the while dancing around the room like the asshole he is.
Rather than just take his suckout and go on with the game, he had to make it look like he played the hand brilliantly, when in fact he played it horribly and should have been knocked out of the tourny.