Crazy Hand at WPT Foxwoods

AK*1AK*1
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This is classic. I was checking out Card Player.com and came across a link to a controversial hand at the WPT Foxwoods event. The best part is, its all on tape. It's like the Zapruder film of poker. You have to check this out.

The player who mucks his hand, then start lying about saying he didn't, even though on tape, you can see him giving his chips to JC Tran before the hand is over. It's so bizarre. And I think the ruling is total B.S. too. Waut to the end of the tape to hear the TD's reasoning. I understand where he is coming from, but in that instance, there is no way Tran should have lost that pot.

http://www.cardplayer.com/tv/29329

Comments

  • HobbesHobbes
    What an A$$ that guy was.
    Esp lying that he flipped his cards face up.

    Atleast he busted out later.
  • DrTyoreDrTyore
    Don't necessarily hate the ruling.... but the guy's a dick

    Mark
  • cadillaccadillac
    Ruling is correct.

    To me it looked like he tried to flip the cards up but did a piss poor job. You could see the underside of the cards in the video in slo-mo before they ended up face down.
  • AK*1AK*1
    The ruling is what it is - but I think it's a dumb rule. I watched the tape twice, and he did not try and flip his cards over. If you watch it closely, he shoots them over in the direction of the muck, face-down, and then when they pass over the button, they flip up and one turns over as it flies into the chip tray.

    If you think he was not mucking, why does he immediately start paying off Tran? The hand is not over, but in his mind it was, because he had already mucked.

    Also - the TD says even if they ended up on top of the muck, and the dealer knew which cards they were, the hand would not be considered dead, because there is no more action to come. That's completely ridiculous. How can the dealer be 100% sure which cards are his, even if he thinks he is? IMO - any hand that's mucked like that, should be dead, and then flipped over to check for collusion.
  • jpajamasjpajamas
    Anonymmous guy is a DONKEY. If he thought he was so right, he would not remain anon. NO BALLS, and a LIAR...Justice was served when he went busto...Looks got on him!
  • BigBossBigBoss
    Mucked he made the motion toward it, his hand is dead.
  • HP_JohnHP_John
    So sick that he had the nerve to lie that he was flipping them over & not mucking them. The way he said it, he flipped them over normally & nothing out of the ordinary. There's a friggin video, ass.
  • actyperactyper
    Was reading about another hand there where Beth Shak folded on a board of TJQKA rainbow. ooops.
  • zunni74zunni74
    cadillac wrote: »
    Ruling is correct.

    To me it looked like he tried to flip the cards up but did a piss poor job. You could see the underside of the cards in the video in slo-mo before they ended up face down.


    Exactly my thoughts. Him shipping his chips over to JC not-withstanding, it looked like a bad attempt to table his cards.
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