Waterloo Arrests??

More info on the Ramada Inn games, with some arrests in Waterloo!!

WATERLOO REGION

Twenty-six people face gambling-related charges after police raided two illegal backroom card games, one at a Waterloo apartment and another at a Guelph hotel.

The card game was Texas Hold 'em poker, which has gained popularity since it started appearing on television several years ago, said Det. Sgt. Bill Sword, of the OPP illegal gambling unit.

While playing cards isn't illegal, charging people to play or taking proceeds of the winnings is, Sword said.

At 10:30 p.m. Wednesday, OPP officers, along with Guelph city police and Waterloo regional police raided a banquet room at the Ramada Inn at 716 Gordon St. in Guelph and an apartment unit at 17 Austin Dr. in Waterloo.

Police acted on complaints, some from disgruntled spouses and people addicted to gambling.

Officers seized gaming tables, cards, chips and $8,425 in cash.
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  • JohnnieH wrote: »
    Police acted on complaints, some from disgruntled spouses

    D-I-V-O-R-C-E!!
  • JohnnieH wrote: »
    some from disgruntled spouses and people addicted to gambling.

    aka losers
  • I think this site is used a great deal to find out info on clubs. If you look at the clubs that do not advertise on this forum, they have mainly avoided any trouble. A lot of the clubs from this site have had visits so I say get rid of the 'guest' feature and only registered users of the site can use it. Hell, if you want to find clubs, just go to facebook and type in poker "city name" and you will get a list of clubs with full addresses, etc. Not sure why they are picking on pokerforum clubs? what's next, the Ryder Cup?
  • Rest assured, they are watching the boards here...but don't think for a second they don't scan other arenas like facebook and meetup as well. They're doing their jobs, its what they get paid to do. Not advocating their actions by any means, but every player knows the risks of going to an underground club. If you don't know the risks, you shouldn't be playing there at all.
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    I say get rid of the 'guest' feature and only registered users of the site can use it.
    For the home & club games sections, I agree. That's how it works here in Ottawa.

    /g2
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    what's next, the Ryder Cup?

    Actually that was one of the first ones in the area to get a stern warning. That's why everything is done hush hush now.
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    I say get rid of the 'guest' feature and only registered users of the site can use it.

    There is something that prevents a police officer from becoming a registered member? Come on.

    Anyone running a raked game is kidding themselves if they think the police don't know about it.
  • moose wrote: »
    Anyone running a raked game is kidding themselves if they think the police don't know about it.
    Agreed. Most of the raked clubs that have been raided in London, Chatham, Brampton, Hamilton, Oakville, Ottawa, Mississauga, Burlington, Guelph, Toronto, etc. are not active in this forum or the Internet. Even for clubs that are smartly keeping a low profile, it is only a matter of time before the Illegal Gambling Unit investigates them.
  • moose wrote: »
    There is something that prevents a police officer from becoming a registered member? Come on./QUOTE]

    Wouldn't that be entrapment?
  • No.
    Ever heard of a term under cover?
  • pokerJAH wrote: »
    moose wrote: »
    There is something that prevents a police officer from becoming a registered member? Come on.

    Wouldn't that be entrapment?

    No. Entrapment (in simple terms) would be convincing you to hold an illegal poker game and then busting you for hosting it.
  • FWIW - this got mentioned on the local morning show on the radio this morning.
  • STR82ACE wrote: »
    Rest assured, they are watching the boards here...but don't think for a second they don't scan other arenas like facebook and meetup as well. They're doing their jobs, its what they get paid to do. Not advocating their actions by any means, but every player knows the risks of going to an underground club. If you don't know the risks, you shouldn't be playing there at all.

    ...it is what we pay them to do.

    So driving downtown last night I saw some skeezy crack-whore, a couple homeless guys, some seemingly wayward youth...

    I'm sure glad I'm paying some police officer to scope Facebook. I feel good about what my tax dollars are being used for. ;)

    I want a new system similar to native Canadians where you apply for 'intelligence status' and as such are awarded special privelleges. (like playing cards where you choose without fear of arrest.)

    The test will be tying your shoes, and then chewing gum and walking.
    The card will read:

    "Dear Mr. or Ms. law enforcement officer,
    I've been assessed to have a basic level of competency and am now prepared to make reasonable decision for myself. Kindly shove your parental over lording ideologies up your ass. I will not require a spanking today."
  • I guess you are one of those drivers who looks both ways and then runs the red light.
  • at four am with no cars around...I'd like to be.
  • Kristy_Sea wrote: »
    at four am with no cars around...I'd like to be.

    And what are YOU doing on the streets at 4 am, little miss??
  • That sounds like the opening for a porn

    I am usually grocery shopping, that way I don't have to interact with as many non-cardholders.

    Also my pimp likes me to check in around that time.
  • Kristy_Sea wrote: »
    ...it is what we pay them to do.

    So driving downtown last night I saw some skeezy crack-whore, a couple homeless guys, some seemingly wayward youth...

    they have officers assigned to deal with those people and the homeless aren't a police issue, it's a social support issue.

    Kristy_Sea wrote: »
    "Dear Mr. or Ms. law enforcement officer,
    I've been assessed to have a basic level of competency and am now prepared to make reasonable decision for myself. Kindly shove your parental over lording ideologies up your ass. I will not require a spanking today."


    they aren't questioning or limiting your ability to play poker, they are enforcing a law against raking a game. The government has full faith in your ability to handle the responsibility of gambling, just do it at a casino or a non-raked home game.
  • Police said they acted on complaints, some from disgruntled spouses and some from gambling addicts and others who have lost money on the poker games.
    Sore losers! ;) A poker player would not rat on a club just for losing, unless he has gotten really pissed off like Skullz&Bones.
    "These people lose a lot of money," Sword said. "It is not uncommon for people to come in with thousands of dollars and leave with nothing."

    Twenty-one people were charged with being found in a gaming house and another five were charged with keeping a gaming house.
    Aside from the overly high-profile owner, were there any other forum members there?
    Sword said some establishments can make up to $2,000 a night from one poker table, either by charging people to play or taking a percentage, usually 10 per cent, of the winnings.

    Sword said most convictions for keeping a gaming house have resulted in fines of $5,000 to $10,000. This is small, considering an establishment can make $400,000 a year from just one card table, he said.

    The arrests in Waterloo and Guelph were the result of a five-month police investigation, he said.

    "We are basically reacting to complaints coming in. We are not proactive. . . . There is so much of it going on."

    Those arrested at the Guelph hotel were all employees and ranged in age from their early 20s to mid-50s. Most were men.

    At the Waterloo apartment, all those arrested were men in their early 20s, Sword said.
    :
    Running the games has become a lucrative business with those involved in organized crime as well. Because they are selling a service, and not a product like drugs, there is less risk and smaller penalties, Sword said.
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Sore losers! ;) A poker player would not rat on a club just for losing, unless he has gotten really pissed off like Skullz&Bones.

    Now THERE'S a name I'm familiar with...whatever happened to my old buddy anyway ;)

    Somebody probably PAID him to rat out the clubs anyway.
  • JohnnieH wrote: »
    Police acted on complaints, some from disgruntled spouses

    I can sympathize with that! I just had 100 pages of pokerforum.ca included in my divorce affidavits by ex-husband...FROM AN ACCOUNT THAT ISN"T EVEN MINE! (like I'm not abrasive enough on my own :))
  • I have to say, your hubby is pretty fucking desperate. I have the time of day for most people but this guy, I wouldn't give the gum off the bottom of my shoe.
  • Wait a minute...

    Your ex is going through all the threads looking for dirt on you? You've got 500+ FREAKIN POSTS!?!?? This dude clearly has too much time on his hands / isn't quite right in the head!

    Now I"m paranoid about anything *I* said... oh crap! He's got pictures of me pantless!!
  • DrTyore wrote: »
    Wait a minute...

    Your ex is going through all the threads looking for dirt on you? You've got 500+ FREAKIN POSTS!?!?? This dude clearly has too much time on his hands / isn't quite right in the head!

    Now I"m paranoid about anything *I* said... oh crap! He's got pictures of me pantless!!

    We need to start a thread saying what a wonderful person Kisty is. Let him put that in his affidvit and shove it
  • Hell, that's easy enough to do...

    Kristy's OFMF! (One fantastic <exploitive deleted>) :)

    Mark
  • Bumbaclat wrote: »
    they have officers assigned to deal with those people and the homeless aren't a police issue, it's a social support issue.

    precisely, fire a cop, hire a social worker/create better support systems.. lets actively make Canada a better country by helping those who actually need it.


    Bumbaclat wrote: »
    they aren't questioning or limiting your ability to play poker, they are enforcing a law against raking a game. The government has full faith in your ability to handle the responsibility of gambling, just do it at a casino or a non-raked home game.

    As a resident of Waterloo region I can say that the gov'ts nonsensical position HAS limited my reasonable access to play in a professional live setting. At very worst they should be regulating poker rooms (similar to pool halls/chess clubs etc.) and in short getting the hell out of my way while I enjoy a GAME, in any manner I see fit.

    I'd go further and suggest that the government is actively putting gambling addicts in this area in a dangerous position. By not allowing/regulating this industry the Gov't forces these people, whom we've indentified as ill and not to be held accountable for their actions, to access these unregulated games and lose in a way that causes them financial, emotional and possibly physical hardship and harm.

    So since we've now established that the gov't is NOT interested in protecting people NOR are they working hard to reasonably earn the tax dollars that could be brought in from a regulated game in the area; I suggest again, that they should cease their absurd and pointless over-lording and kindly allow me to make responsible decisions for myself.


    [ps. Thanks for the understanding and compliments guys. I appreciate it!]
  • DrTyore wrote: »
    Wait a minute... He's got pictures of me pantless!!

    We all do Mark.
  • I'd go further and suggest that the government is actively putting crack addicts in this area in a dangerous position. By not allowing/regulating this industry the Gov't forces these people, whom we've indentified as ill and not to be held accountable for their actions, to access these unregulated crack houses and smoke crack in a way that causes them financial, emotional and possibly physical hardship and harm.
  • you can't have it both ways Moose...but I can.

    If you want a gov't that doesn't give a damn about people then you must oppose these raids because they are wasting man power..when "we don't give a fuck about the unwell"

    If you want a gov't that cares about people, then I think I've suggested a better way, and therefore you must oppose these raids because they are misappropriating resources (tax dollars) to 'catching' and 'punishing' when they could be educating and healing, which would obv have an end more in keeping with the second stated desire.

    see the pattern? ;)
  • BlondeFish wrote: »
    Aside from the overly high-profile owner, were there any other forum members there?

    Who was the "overly high profile" owner?
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